Small Traditions LLC/SCANDAL UPDATE

[LarsenMN]

I skip right over the slabbed cards. I find I get the best deals by purchasing raw cards. If it has some slightly rounded corners, I know it has not been altered. Plus they are about 5x less for the exact same card minus a crappy slab and "opinionated" grade. Penny sleeves and top loaders are plenty of protection for my ex-ex+ vintage collection.

[LarsenMN]

Also if I find a card has been trimmed, I can contact the buyer and 90% of the time I get refunded. Or I am out a measly $10 or $15.

[Republicaninmass]

People may not be consigning, it is probably his trimmed collection. I had to laugh when I recieved the email about the auction. The audacity of this guy is beyond belief. Faking provenance is about 6 feet below a snakes belly.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

People may not be consigning, it is probably his trimmed collection. I had to laugh when I recieved the email about the auction. The audacity of this guy is beyond belief. Faking provenance is about 6 feet below a snakes belly.

I think he still had some consignments in the pipeline from last year which are in the current auction. When lots get hammered in his auction to sell for much more a month or two later, should make consignors running for a new company to consign with.

One example of a card I follow is this card. Sold for 1955.00 in Small Traditions and then it pops up in PWCC and sells for over 3k

https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=45306

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Little...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[bluez]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

I think he still had some consignments in the pipeline from last year which are in the current auction. When lots get hammered in his auction to sell for much more a month or two later, should make consignors running for a new company to consign with.

One example of a card I follow is this card. Sold for 1955.00 in Small Traditions and then it pops up in PWCC and sells for over 3k

https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=45306

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Little...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I can't get the kind of money on Ebay that PWCC gets.
Where do you and others suggest as an alternative for vintage and newer?

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by bluez

I can't get the kind of money on Ebay that PWCC gets.
Where do you and others suggest as an alternative for vintage and newer?

For vintage any on this list I would trust. Not in any order:

1. BST on Net54 (Free and many collectors see it)
2. Sterling Auctions (Anything really)
3. Heritage (Higher dollar items)
4. Hunt (Post Cards/memorabilia)
5. Huggins & Scott (newer stuff including minor league)
6. Brockleman Auctions (Especially booklets/papers/magazines)
7. LOTG (Type cards/postcards/photos)
8. REA (higher dollar items especially 19th century)
9. Clean Sweep (prewar items including obscure)
9. eBay seller that comes recommended from here. More fees involved in this option.

If you consign, ask to have sellers fee waved and make sure you know what they are charging the buyer for fees. Plus make sure you like the way the auction closes. If some/all your items need grading, then negotiate the grading cost upfront.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

For vintage any on this list I would trust. Not in any order:

1. BST on Net54 (Free and many collectors see it)
2. Sterling Auctions (Anything really)
3. Heritage (Higher dollar items)
4. Hunt (Post Cards/memorabilia)
5. Huggins & Scott (newer stuff including minor league)
6. Brockleman Auctions (Especially booklets/papers/magazines)
7. LOTG (Type cards/postcards/photos)
8. REA (higher dollar items especially 19th century)
9. Clean Sweep (prewar items including obscure)
9. eBay seller that comes recommended from here. More fees involved in this option.

Trying not to cry...

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

For vintage any on this list I would trust. Not in any order:

4. Hunt (Post Cards/memorabilia)
.

I know this is off subject, but I disagree with this.

I bought a memorabilia piece from them that they specified as a specific piece. After receiving it I tried my own research more and couldn't confirm anything from the item description. When I contacted HUNT's with the conflicting information they told me essentially "that is what our consignor told us". So they took the work of the consignor with out any bit of research and fully relied on that info. When I asked if they could provide more providence, they told me the consignor didn't have anything to provide. I haven't bid with Hunt since. The item was so cheap that I let it go, but they lost my trust.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by bluez

I can't get the kind of money on Ebay that PWCC gets.
Where do you and others suggest as an alternative for vintage and newer?

Before I bought Birmingham Auctioneers I consigned several items with PWCC on which I thought he would outperform my ebay account. Oddly enough with no shill bidding they went for very pedestrian prices and significantly less than identical items in the same sale. If I recall the items were 1965 Mantle PSA 8, 1967 Tom Seaver PSA 7, 1986 Fleer Jordan PSA 8 and 1979 Topps Gretzky PSA 8.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Before I bought Birmingham Auctioneers I consigned several items with PWCC on which I thought he would outperform my ebay account. Oddly enough with no shill bidding they went for very pedestrian prices and significantly less than identical items in the same sale. If I recall the items were 1965 Mantle PSA 8, 1967 Tom Seaver PSA 7, 1986 Fleer Jordan PSA 8 and 1979 Topps Gretzky PSA 8.

You probably should have lobbied harder for their "High End" Stickers!