T206 Question ?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by buymycards

The problem with using the thin paper of the Type 1 Coupon's as a reason to exclude it from the T206 set doesn't hold water. What about American Beauty, which are narrower than other T206's. Should they also be excluded?

We have discussed this on the board many, many times. The reason for the T206 set being defined the way it is, is that one person, many years ago, with very limited information, made this decision. I am in awe of the work that Burdick did in regard to cataloging the sets, but in some cases, new information has come to light that Burdick wasn't aware of.

Rick

The paper is the issue. E90-1 cards share the same fronts with other caramel issues and a tobacco issue. It isn't an issue that they are catalogued as different sets. In the 90s, I collected basketball cards because of Michael Jordan. I would never dream of putting a Topps card in a Topps Chrome set. The cards are nothing alike except for using the same picture. It is the same with t206 and Coupon Type 1. They aren't the same cards, they aren't the same set. I would never buy a coupon card to fill a hole in my t206 set.

You make a good point on the American Beauty cards. I noticed that when I started collecting t206 35 years ago and I deliberately avoided buying any of those cards for my set. If there is any change to be made with the backs in the set, in my opinion it should be excluding the card backs that are not like the others, American Beauty and Ty Cobb, not adding more backs that have little in common with t206. I have no problem leaving them as is, it is Burdick's work not ours.

[sreader3]

For anyone interested, I have posted some thoughts on this topic here:

http://www.t206insider.com/store/c1/insider#research/

Cheers.

Scot

[RCMcKenzie]

Nice article on T206, Scot, I enjoyed reading it. I'm fine with the nomenclature remaining, but as a back collector, I go by the backs for all cards, T205, T206, T207, T213, T216, T218, T219...

If I find a T218 Tolstoi, I put it in a separate box from my T218 Mecca etc...When TedZ lines up all the backs to show the same design, either they are all together, or all separate. I'm fine with separate. I don't even go by the fronts in t216, I group them by the 5 backs. T216 are 5 different sets to me. It's a fun discussion. The only Latin I know is tempus fugit...Rob

I'm fine with just letting it be.

[62corvette]

I will add what I can—most of you are far more advanced than I. In winter 1971 I picked up 1100 tobacco cards from a retired farmer outside of Max, ND. He got the cards as a kid in NYC. There were a few fish, soldiers, etc. but about 1050 of them were T205 and T206. A pretty wide variety of backs, including the first T205 Hindu reported in the hobby. No other baseball, no T-213 or T-215. I know there is nothing definitive in that, and is primarily anecdotal, FWIW.

[buymycards]

Originally Posted by 62corvette

I will add what I can—most of you are far more advanced than I. In winter 1971 I picked up 1100 tobacco cards from a retired farmer outside of Max, ND. He got the cards as a kid in NYC. There were a few fish, soldiers, etc. but about 1050 of them were T205 and T206. A pretty wide variety of backs, including the first T205 Hindu reported in the hobby. No other baseball, no T-213 or T-215. I know there is nothing definitive in that, and is primarily anecdotal, FWIW.

That must have been a huge thrill. Thank you for sharing that!

But, just because there weren't any Coupons or Red Cross cards doesn't mean much. Were there Uzits, Broadleaf, Drum, etc.? If not, it doesn't mean that they aren't part of the T206 set. I'm not trying to argue with you. Just expressing my opinion.

It must have been exciting to go through 1100 cards, one by one, seeing who was on the front and then turning them over to check out the backs. I get excited when I find a group of 1989 Topps at a garage sale, and I would probably need CPR if I came across 1100 tobacco cards.

[62corvette]

Originally Posted by buymycards

That must have been a huge thrill. Thank you for sharing that!

But, just because there weren't any Coupons or Red Cross cards doesn't mean much. Were there Uzits, Broadleaf, Drum, etc.? If not, it doesn't mean that they aren't part of the T206 set. I'm not trying to argue with you. Just expressing my opinion.

It must have been exciting to go through 1100 cards, one by one, seeing who was on the front and then turning them over to check out the backs. I get excited when I find a group of 1989 Topps at a garage sale, and I would probably need CPR if I came across 1100 tobacco cards.

I had no idea what they were. I subscribed to “The Trader Speaks”, so I went home and did research. No Uzits or Drums, but several Broadleafs—-and no shortage of Piedmonts or Sweet Caps. I had to force $20 on him. He wanted to give them to me. Called him and told him that I owed him more money, and he said he kept them all those years, just hoping to find someone who wanted them.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 62corvette

I will add what I can—most of you are far more advanced than I. In winter 1971 I picked up 1100 tobacco cards from a retired farmer outside of Max, ND. He got the cards as a kid in NYC. There were a few fish, soldiers, etc. but about 1050 of them were T205 and T206. A pretty wide variety of backs, including the first T205 Hindu reported in the hobby. No other baseball, no T-213 or T-215. I know there is nothing definitive in that, and is primarily anecdotal, FWIW.

Wonder what that find would be worth today? Thanks for sharing.

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