Jeter - minus 1? WTF??

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by drcy

If votes are supposed to be preordained and people will be booted off and pitchforks taken up because they vote differently on issues, there shouldn't be votes. Apparently, some people think voting means you get to choose between Yes and Yes.

I am in general suspicious of unanimous votes, because it often indicates groupthink and a lot of yes men.

Besides, as far as HOF enshrinement goes, the induction percentage is just trivial trivia. As DiMaggio and Jimmy Foxx demonstrate, it's not an indication of anything significant. No one, including here, looks at induction percentages when ranking Pre-War players. No one anywhere says Robin Yount is better than Joe DiMaggio (And I say that as a Robin Yount fan).

Great post right there....

Again... Jeter got the highest-ever percentage of votes for any position player in the history of baseball.

So in the immortal words of Chrissie Hynde…. Stop Your Sobbing!

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Great post right there....

Again... Jeter got the highest-ever percentage of votes for any position player in the history of baseball.

So in the immortal words of Chrissie Hynde…. Stop Your Sobbing!

I agree Mark, David's post was the most salient thus far.
And to touch on your thoughts, ONLY in this modern society do you find people actually getting what they want, and STILL whining and complaining!
... it's pathetic really.

So no need for any Holy Commotions or to add any Middle of the Road comments. Maybe if these Bad Boys get Spanked for whining about a single Precious vote, or they were put Back on the Chain Gang, they would change their tune. Buck up naysayers, you still have Brass in Pocket.
Goodbye

[rats60]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Great post right there....

Again... Jeter got the highest-ever percentage of votes for any position player in the history of baseball.

So in the immortal words of Chrissie Hynde…. Stop Your Sobbing!

Ray Davies not Chrissie Hynde.

[timzcardz]

First, Jeter is 100% a Hall of Famer. Pretty sure that there are no partials.




Now, has anyone here never made a mistake on a form by not checking off the correct box, or forgetting to check one off?

Could it be a case of simple human error?

There is always the possibility that the voter intended to vote for Jeter and screwed up.

[HRBAKER]

I'm still too distraught over Harry and Meghan to worry about this.

[drcy]

When my dad was a professor, a student came into his office worried she was going to get a B, because she was a 4.0 student who had never gotten anything below an A.

He said "Getting a B is good for you. Getting all A's is not good for a student."

[cardsagain74]

Originally Posted by drcy

When my dad was a professor, a student came into his office worried she was going to get a B, because she was a 4.0 student who had never gotten anything below an A.

He said "Getting a B is good for you. Getting all A's is not good for a student."

Your dad was wrong. I was a much better student when I was motivated to keep straight As. When there were plenty of Bs mixed in too, you just shrug and accept a little more mediocrity and are content with a slightly lower GPA

[cardsagain74]

And I'm surprised that guy from the other recent HOF thread isn't here writing smug diatribes about how overrated Jeter was.

Not that I don't agree with the sentiment.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by cardsagain74

And I'm surprised that guy from the other recent HOF thread isn't here writing smug diatribes about how overrated Jeter was.

Not that I don't agree with the sentiment.

I also noticed his absence in this thread. Walker is one of the best ever and Jeter is a no hit, no power, no glove overrated scrub.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by cardsagain74

And I'm surprised that guy from the other recent HOF thread isn't here writing smug diatribes about how overrated Jeter was.

Not that I don't agree with the sentiment.

If you're referring to me, nothing "smug" about my post. Facts are facts. If you don't like it....if your delicate sensibilities can't handle frank discussions, avoid them.

Jeter is a worthy Hall of Famer. I never said he wasn't. I never said he didn't deserve to be in on the first ballot. Never said I didn't like the guy. I'm a fan. I thought he was a great teammate, worthy of the Yankee captainship. I did say that he didn't deserve 100%, as he's clearly not in the class of the game's all-time greats. I didn't broach the subject, but since people make such a big deal over vote percentage now, I'm going to weigh in. And this ridiculous "outrage" from some because one voter left him off the ballot, as if it were the end of the world-those people need to get a life.

If you don't like my posts, that's fine. Put me on ignore, or shut the fuck up about what I have to say. Or, gulp, try to make a post repudiating what I've said. But you can't-far easier for people like you to shit on someone than to discredit what they've said.

Jeter is incredibly overrated. He was a singles hitter. He didn't hit doubles or triples. His home run rate, for the era, and even compared to his peers, was low. He didn't walk. His OBP was almost entirely driven by his average. He struck out way, way too much for a guy having so little power. He was an average defender at best.

Prove me wrong! Otherwise, keep your fucking snide comments to yourself.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by rats60

Ray Davies not Chrissie Hynde.

Ray wrote it, the Kinks originally played it, Chrissie made it famous...

[perezfan]

Ah yes, the great Ray Davies... Such a marvelous and underrated band, The Kinks.

But if I didn't use Chrissie, we wouldn't have gotten the very clever Pretenders post (#40 in the thread) from Brent!

Somewhat ironically, both The Pretenders and The Kinks are in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. I wonder if anyone in that particular Hall of Fame missed being unanimous by a single vote? Now if that happened to The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, or Rolling Stones, we would have a real problem!