New Hobby Saying

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

It's all a "Billion dollar fraud"

Yes it is but as you should have noticed by now everyone but the few malcontents are in on it and want you to shut up.

[JollyElm]

Overheard at PWCC...

"Wait, this card is still the same price!!! You told me it was 20% off!!!"

(Sound of a paper cutter in the background) "Not off the price, silly, off the card itself."

[hcv123]

this scandal could redefine a % off sale!

[Exhibitman]

We are all shocked, appalled, dismayed, disgusted, etc., by the doctoring scandal. I daresay that many of us are scared too, given the investments in slabs that were made. I'd urge those who are down on the hobby as a result to step back and recalibrate a bit. If you still love collecting cards, there is no reason to quit because TPGs are rampantly incompetent and corrupt--you just need to shift your emphasis away from slabs. I've been having a ball--and saving a ton of money and storage space--collecting raw cards and replacing slabs with raw cards. To me, a little bit of honest wear is just a sign that the kid who had the card before me enjoyed it and appreciated it and saved it for me to play with before I send it on to the next kid.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

We are all shocked, appalled, dismayed, disgusted, etc., by the doctoring scandal. I daresay that many of us are scared too, given the investments in slabs that were made. I'd urge those who are down on the hobby as a result to step back and recalibrate a bit. If you still love collecting cards, there is no reason to quit because TPGs are rampantly incompetent and corrupt--you just need to shift your emphasis away from slabs. I've been having a ball--and saving a ton of money and storage space--collecting raw cards and replacing slabs with raw cards. To me, a little bit of honest wear is just a sign that the kid who had the card before me enjoyed it and appreciated it and saved it for me to play with before I send it on to the next kid.

Raw frightens me too for this reason......many have been cracked outta holders and have altering problems.......I’m glad I’ve sold most it’s sad but I’ve made peace with it.

[Bigdaddy]

The ironic thing is that 'we' could put the TPGs or even certain AHs or dealers out of business by just not using them anymore. What if we went just one month without submitting, consigning or buying from any of these crooked businesses?

It would take quite an effort to organize a boycott though and in the end, if they still have the 'precious' there will still be people prostituting themselves to get their grubby fingers around a piece of cardboard. Sad.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Yes it is but as you should have noticed by now everyone but the few malcontents are in on it and want you to shut up.

That is what is so painfully obvious is that they ARE ALL in on it. and collectors obviously know about what a dogshit company PSA is by now. Yet they keep spoon feeding them $$$ like the imbeciles they are and hope nothing changes. All the while PSA is alienating the collector by censoring everyone and not taking any responsibility for their part. No road map to fix what ails them. Nothing.

THAT IS PRECISELY HOW YOU KNOW they are in on the scam.

[Exhibitman]

Well, saying we know PSA is in on the scam is a bit too tin foil hat for me, but it is certainly accurate to say that PSA's management doesn't care and won't care unless and until this damages the bottom line or results in criminal charges against PSA personnel.

I've stopped submitting cards to PSA, though I still have a back order sitting there since last fall. So take that you greedy dicks! You won't have my 100 cards a year to kick around any more.

[Leon]

From what we have seen, most prudent folks would think PSA is either incompetent or committing fraud. Except for a potential rogue employee or two I am still picking the first option. And PSA is great at marketing. They continue to sweep, sweep and sweep some more under the rug. Problem is the things they were sweeping under the rug have piled up so much they are coming out of the other end.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Well, saying we know PSA is in on the scam is a bit too tin foil hat for me, but it is certainly accurate to say that PSA's management doesn't care and won't care unless and until this damages the bottom line or results in criminal charges against PSA personnel.

I've stopped submitting cards to PSA, though I still have a back order sitting there since last fall. So take that you greedy dicks! You won't have my 100 cards a year to kick around any more.