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Old 01-11-2020, 12:24 PM
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But hasn't it always held true that any wrinkle or crease (no matter how small or faint) should keep the card from grading no better than "4"?

In theory. In reality, I’ve seen plenty of PSA 5’s that have subtle wrinkles somewhere. I wasn’t arguing that a card with a wrinkle should necessarily be more than a 4. But PSA lately has been giving many cards like that 2 and 2.5’s, which is a bit harsh.


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Old 01-11-2020, 06:06 PM
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Yeah... really harsh, if the tiny wrinkle/crease is the only flaw of significance.

I agree that they’re grading tougher now, in light of this year’s “developments”.
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Old 01-11-2020, 06:08 PM
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Agreed they seem stricter


Gorgeous psa 4.5 came back a 4

Perfect psa 4 came back a 3


So back they go, great gimmick
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Old 01-11-2020, 07:44 PM
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Here is the card,that I have been talking about.
It is a real nice blue.Not as it shows.Printing on back is nice,dark and perfectly clear.
Not as my computer shows.
Very light creases across front "Knee Level" ,and under arm pit,
to the left.And across chest.EXCEPT FOR THE KNEE LEVEL,THE OTHERS ARE VERY HARD, TO EVEN SEE?
What do you think?
Is it worthy of more,than a "POOR"?

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Old 01-11-2020, 09:30 PM
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My T205 Wilbur Goode is graded the same. It really isn't anything new with PSA. I think that if your card has more than one crease PSA will just grade it a 1.
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Old 01-11-2020, 09:42 PM
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It's hard to tell from the blurry back scan, but it looks like there is a sliver of paper loss within the crease on the back of the card to the left of Tennant's name.

The PSA 1 grade would be due to that in my opinion.
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Old 01-12-2020, 04:09 AM
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It's hard to tell from the blurry back scan, but it looks like there is a sliver of paper loss within the crease on the back of the card to the left of Tennant's name.

The PSA 1 grade would be due to that in my opinion.
If PSA is looking that closely at this card to notice micro issues that drop this pretty card to a 1 (and it should be no greater than a 2.5 IMO), then how the hell are they missing so many obvious trims and alterations?!
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Old 01-12-2020, 04:10 AM
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No,the crease shows lightly on the back.
But no paper missing.
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:44 AM
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Agreed they seem stricter


Gorgeous psa 4.5 came back a 4

Perfect psa 4 came back a 3


So back they go, great gimmick
this is part of the problem right here. Why are we cracking these out like idiots? How about we collect them? I find it fascinating.
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:22 AM
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this is part of the problem right here. Why are we cracking these out like idiots? How about we collect them? I find it fascinating.
+1. A TPG honey hole . The answer is always money. Otherwise who gives a crap whether a card is a 3.5, a 4 or 5?
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