Brooks Robinson and the Baltimore Orioles

[BaltOrioles]

Originally Posted by Mark70Z

I believe you're right that Morton Tadder was hired to take pictures for the Orioles in the early '60's, but I'm unsure if it was specifically 1962 or not. I'm also not sure if he lasted until 1999; do you know for sure on that one?

I know Jerry Wachter was hired by the Orioles in 1970 to take Oriole pictures, but think it was left to Tadder and Associates to take the portraits and team pictures.

I don't know if Mort Tadder himself was taking photos up until 1998/99, but I do know 1998 or 1999 was the last year I was able to get the Tadder 8x10 glossy head shot photos, with names printed, from the Orioles office. Some of those photos continued to have Tadder on the front. At that time, you could go up to the O's office in the warehouse and hand the lady at the desk a list of players you wanted and she would get them for you. They were $2 per photo. I miss the simpler times.

Here are the last couple Cal Ripken photos I picked up from 1998/99.

Ripken, Cal Jr 6.jpg

Ripken, Cal Jr 7.jpg

[whiteymet]

I saw someone posted a 180 back from the Salada set earlier.I wanted to give more background on the set and Brooks in particular.

As some of you may know there are 3 or 4 "rare" coins in the set. Two of which are Orioles. Brandt with the Oriolesas opposed to the normal Oriole. And Dick Williams with his name on the right.

If you read the write up about the 62 Salada coins in the SCD Standard Catalog and read the last two sentences you will learn about a TINY PERCENTAGE of the 180 backs that are different. Both the rare Brandt and Williams are part of this very rare early test print run.

Just to be clear these are NOT on ALL 180 backs, but rather on a VERY SMALL scale. In fact they are so rare that the SCD Catalog does not even assign a value to them because they turn up so rarely there are no records of sales.

As "luck" would have it for you Brooksie collectors, he is included in this early test print run.

Below I have scanned three different coins.

On the left is a prototype for the 1963 set that came out of Salada files. They wanted to see what a coin would look like in the metal shell. Here they used a basic steel color, while the coins that were issued were either a red or blue shell. They took a 62 paper Brooks out of a plastic shell and taped it into the metal shell you see.

In the middle is the "common" issue of the Brooks coin.

And on the right is the very rare early test print where you will note his name is lower where the word Robinson is even with his mouth while on the common coin Robinson is printed above his mouth. The word Orioles is also slightly moved on the test printing coin. So while ALL of these test printing coins are 180 backs not all 180 backs are the test coins.

Hope this all makes sense.

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

I saw someone posted a 180 back from the Salada set earlier.I wanted to give more background on the set and Brooks in particular.

As some of you may know there are 3 or 4 "rare" coins in the set. Two of which are Orioles. Brandt with the Oriolesas opposed to the normal Oriole. And Dick Williams with his name on the right.

If you read the write up about the 62 Salada coins in the SCD Standard Catalog and read the last two sentences you will learn about a TINY PERCENTAGE of the 180 backs that are different. Both the rare Brandt and Williams are part of this very rare early test print run.

Just to be clear these are NOT on ALL 180 backs, but rather on a VERY SMALL scale. In fact they are so rare that the SCD Catalog does not even assign a value to them because they turn up so rarely there are no records of sales.

As "luck" would have it for you Brooksie collectors, he is included in this early test print run.

Below I have scanned three different coins.

On the left is a prototype for the 1963 set that came out of Salada files. They wanted to see what a coin would look like in the metal shell. Here they used a basic steel color, while the coins that were issued were either a red or blue shell. They took a 62 paper Brooks out of a plastic shell and taped it into the metal shell you see.

In the middle is the "common" issue of the Brooks coin.

And on the right is the very rare early test print where you will note his name is lower where the word Robinson is even with his mouth while on the common coin Robinson is printed above his mouth. The word Orioles is also slightly moved on the test printing coin. So while ALL of these test printing coins are 180 backs not all 180 backs are the test coins.

Hope this all makes sense.

Fred,

Thanks so much for the information on the Salada coins. As a Brooks collector I sure didn't know that there was a difference. Appreciate you educating me and giving pictures to document of what you were talking about. Great information!

[roarfrom34]

Speaking of playoff hero Tito Landrum....Here is a dual signed UPI Press Photo of Tito "high fiving" Cal Ripken Jr. after smacking that 10th Inning HR off Chicago's Britt Burns in the '83 ALCS clinching game:

[Mark70Z]

Day 9 (January 9, 2020 – 009)

Always like any type of proof stuff whether it’s a match print photo, progressive proof, blank back (maybe not considered a proof, but not a completed card), printing plate, etc. Today I have pictured a 1966 Bazooka transparency, with Robinson, Wynn and Torre.

Day 9 a.jpg

Another proof, this time cardboard, below of the same panel to go along with the transparency:

Day 9 b.jpg

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by roarfrom34

Speaking of playoff hero Tito Landrum....Here is a dual signed UPI Press Photo of Tito "high fiving" Cal Ripken Jr. after smacking that 10th Inning HR off Chicago's Britt Burns in the '83 ALCS clinching game:

Nice!!

[roarfrom34]

Mark:

Where did you get those proofs?.....Topps Vault on eBay?

One last Chuck Thompson item from me...A few years ago I saw on Craigslist that someone was selling one of those Esskay Hot Dog Vendor boxes from Memorial Stadium (which, strangely I always wanted).

Anyways, I called the seller to reserve it and when I went down to pick it up and pay for it, I asked the guy where in the world did he get it from. He told me his grandfather (of all people) was Chuck Thompson and it was given to Chuck when they closed down Memorial Stadium & that he was now in the process of moving to NC and just getting rid of some things....I did ask him if he had other things related to his grandfather that he would consider selling, but he said this was it...

[BaltOrioles]

Here is the tough 1976 English's Chicken lid of Brooks Robinson. Brooks was part of the group of 10 small lids issued. There were also three larger lids which included Jim Palmer, Ken Holtzman and Mike Cuellar. The larger lids aren't too hard to find and show up much more often than the smaller lids. In my opinion, Brooks is one of the tougher small lids to find.

1976 Englsh Lids (SmallBrooks Robinson).JPG

For additional info, here's a link to Bob Lemke's blog on the set.

http://boblemke.blogspot.com/2015/02...checklist.html

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by roarfrom34

Mark:

Where did you get those proofs?.....Topps Vault on eBay?

One last Chuck Thompson item from me...A few years ago I saw on Craigslist that someone was selling one of those Esskay Hot Dog Vendor boxes from Memorial Stadium (which, strangely I always wanted).

Anyways, I called the seller to reserve it and when I went down to pick it up and pay for it, I asked the guy where in the world did he get it from. He told me his grandfather (of all people) was Chuck Thompson and it was given to Chuck when they closed down Memorial Stadium & that he was now in the process of moving to NC and just getting rid of some things....I did ask him if he had other things related to his grandfather that he would consider selling, but he said this was it...

Bill,

I have a few proofs and most I've had for a while now. A Brooks collector back in the day Mike (Gmrson) had quite an extensive collection of items. He ultimately was downsizing his Brooksie stuff and I was able to pick up a few proof items as well as some general type items for my collection. He was very helpful and extended more than fair prices; just a great guy. I just wish I had the opportunity to get into contact with him sooner since he already sold extremely rare items prior to me even knowing about his collection.

I have also picked up a few proofs from Scott (quitcrab) which also collects Brooks and a bunch of other cool stuff. He's always been very helpful and just an encouraging type guy.

The Topps Vault I have picked up a few things, but not very many. I'll likely show them sometime in this thread and they have their seal they put on the items along with a hologram sticker.

By the way, that vendor box is the type of item that's exciting to me...

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by BaltOrioles

I don't know if Mort Tadder himself was taking photos up until 1998/99, but I do know 1998 or 1999 was the last year I was able to get the Tadder 8x10 glossy head shot photos, with names printed, from the Orioles office. Some of those photos continued to have Tadder on the front. At that time, you could go up to the O's office in the warehouse and hand the lady at the desk a list of players you wanted and she would get them for you. They were $2 per photo. I miss the simpler times.

Here are the last couple Cal Ripken photos I picked up from 1998/99.

He may still have been taking the portraits personally at that time frame, but think he was mainly doing commercial photography if I remember correctly.