50 Most Hated Players of All Time (good read)

[buymycards]

Rocker is on the list. I am suprised that Mark McGwire isn't on the list. He let down an entire generation of fans.

[Tomi]

Don't drink the kool aid, Cobb was not racist. He started a scholarship program for minorities in Detroit and said Jackie Robinson was the only player he would pay to watch play. Stump just destroyed Cobb every chance he got.

[oldjudge]

My top ten(In no particular order):

1. Reggie
2. A-Roid
3. Sosa
4. Ralph Terry
5. Clemens
6. Aroldis Chapman
7. Piazza
8. Bonds
9. Canseco
10. Jose Bautista

Actually, Reggie is clearly number one for me.

[robw1959]

Quite true! Cobb was NOT a racist. Cobb was known for his willingness to barnstorm against Negro League competition at a time when true racists like John McGraw refused to do so. Here's a telling quote from Ty Cobb: "The black man has just as much of a right to play major league baseball as the white man."

Originally Posted by Tomi

Don't drink the kool aid, Cobb was not racist. He started a scholarship program for minorities in Detroit and said Jackie Robinson was the only player he would pay to watch play. Stump just destroyed Cobb every chance he got.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by robw1959

Quite true! Cobb was NOT a racist. Cobb was known for his willingness to barnstorm against Negro League competition at a time when true racists like John McGraw refused to do so. Here's a telling quote from Ty Cobb: "The black man has just as much of a right to play major league baseball as the white man."

Just because someone is not as racist as some of his contemporaries doesn't necessarily mean he was not racist. Every white man from previous generations was a racist, bigot, misogynist, or discriminated openly. Every person today discriminates in some way. It's just the way it is. A racist can still admire a person of color for their skill, and talk horribly about the minority serving them food.

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[robw1959]

Originally Posted by todeen

Every white man from previous generations was a racist, bigot, misogynist, or discriminated openly.
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???? EVERY man? I don't even know how to respond to such nonsense.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by robw1959

???? EVERY man? I don't even know how to respond to such nonsense.

Do you want me to change to every human? The number of people I've met who I would say does not fall into this category is zero. In some way, every person discriminates. I lived in Thailand as a Christian missionary, and they were wonderful people. Welcomed me with open arms, listened to my spiel, and kindly rejected my message. Then they would tell me how racist Americans are. Then I would ask what they thought about people from Burma (Myanmar), and they would tell me they (the collective THEY) are thieves and liars. All human beings discriminate in some way.

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[Mark17]

Originally Posted by todeen

Just because someone is not as racist as some of his contemporaries doesn't necessarily mean he was not racist. Every white man from previous generations was a racist, bigot, misogynist, or discriminated openly. Every person today discriminates in some way. It's just the way it is. A racist can still admire a person of color for their skill, and talk horribly about the minority serving them food.

Everyone has experiences, opinions, preferences, attitudes, etc., but not everyone takes it to the level of being a racist, bigot, misogynist, etc. There are actually a lot of people (including white people) who do judge a person by the content of their character.

Other things equal, I would rather date a beautiful, young woman, than an elderly, ugly one. Does that fit your definition of "open discrimination?" If so, then I guess you might be right.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by todeen

Do you want me to change to every human? The number of people I've met who I would say does not fall into this category is zero. In some way, every person discriminates. I lived in Thailand as a Christian missionary, and they were wonderful people. Welcomed me with open arms, listened to my spiel, and kindly rejected my message. Then they would tell me how racist Americans are. Then I would ask what they thought about people from Burma (Myanmar), and they would tell me they (the collective THEY) are thieves and liars. All human beings discriminate in some way.

Let's assume that your patently absurd premise is actually true. That every human is a racist. So then, what's your point?

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by robw1959

???? EVERY man? I don't even know how to respond to such nonsense.

Hence why I didnt.

I know I'm not included, I hate everyone just the same

Group hug

[JollyElm]

It's just the further 'snowflake-ization' of our country. No matter what the subject is, just call everyone a racist. Pathetic.

[jakebeckleyoldeagleeye]

Originally Posted by todeen

Just because someone is not as racist as some of his contemporaries doesn't necessarily mean he was not racist. Every white man from previous generations was a racist, bigot, misogynist, or discriminated openly. Every person today discriminates in some way. It's just the way it is. A racist can still admire a person of color for their skill, and talk horribly about the minority serving them food.

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Suggest you read A Terrible Beauty. An excellent book about Cobb and not that piece of excrement Stump wrote.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by jakebeckleyoldeagleeye

Suggest you read A Terrible Beauty. An excellent book about Cobb and not that piece of excrement Stump wrote.

Or the even better "War on the Basepaths" on the same subject.