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Old 12-28-2019, 10:29 AM
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I think the expected future value of the cards is already factored into their current prices, so there's no particular reason to think either one is a better investment than the other.
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Old 12-28-2019, 06:50 PM
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I think the expected future value of the cards is already factored into their current prices, so there's no particular reason to think either one is a better investment than the other.
Really? Interesting. You believe the supply/demand has found its level and it's got nowhere to go but downward? Is this a response to the market being held up by a select few and the confidence of TPG companies?
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Old 12-28-2019, 07:00 PM
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I think the expected future value of the cards is already factored into their current prices, so there's no particular reason to think either one is a better investment than the other.
100% agree.

If one card is valued at twice another, then it’s a tossup whether that card will be twice the others value 20 years from now. So either one is as good as the other regarding investment potential over the other
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I'd go with E95.
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Old 12-28-2019, 07:39 PM
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"Really? Interesting. You believe the supply/demand has found its level and it's got nowhere to go but downward?"

That isn't what he said. Say that there's an X% chance that the T205 will increase by $Y and a Z% that it will increase by $W, over the course of some number of years. The idea is that the price of the T205 includes ((X*Y)+(Z*W))*(some discount rate for future money). And that the same is true for the other card (with different X,Y,Z,W). They can still appreciate in value, but for whichever one you can expect to appreciate more in value, you'll pay a proportionally higher cost in order to capture that increase in value.

The appreciation can be due to the discount rate, or if the actual amount by which the card increases in value ends up being greater than (X*Y)+(Z*W).

I'm not endorsing this idea, just explaining it. You'd expect it to be true if all of the cards were purchased by rational investors who are equally well-informed. Whether it would be true in other markets I don't know.
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Old 12-28-2019, 07:43 PM
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Just remember this when asking for investment advice in cards, it’s never a profit until you sell for a gain and never a loss until you sell for a loss. Many fail to have a sell plan/exit strategy missing out letting emotions get the best of them.

Just my two cents worth.

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I feel like many of the E cards are considerably under valued compared to others from the same period. I'd keep the E95 personally unless the t205 is better looking for the grade.
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I feel like many of the E cards are considerably under valued compared to others from the same period. I'd keep the E95 personally unless the t205 is better looking for the grade.
Remember, the best investment would be the card that appreciates the most making you more money on your initial investment. I agree that caramel cards are undervalued and the e95 may be the better investment at this time. That's not saying the t205 doesn't have upside, just that the ROI might be better on the e95 at this time. What do I know though, I'm just a low grade baseball card collector.
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I feel like many of the E cards are considerably under valued compared to others from the same period. I'd keep the E95 personally unless the t205 is better looking for the grade.
That is not a good thing in this hobby. I have been hearing how undervalued Mays cards are compared to Mantle cards for 35 years. Yet the gap just continues to grow. Most of the time "undervalued" cards remain so. T205 cards are more popular. I don't see that changing.
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I think the expected future value of the cards is already factored into their current prices, so there's no particular reason to think either one is a better investment than the other.
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"Really? Interesting. You believe the supply/demand has found its level and it's got nowhere to go but downward?"

That isn't what he said. Say that there's an X% chance that the T205 will increase by $Y and a Z% that it will increase by $W, over the course of some number of years. The idea is that the price of the T205 includes ((X*Y)+(Z*W))*(some discount rate for future money). And that the same is true for the other card (with different X,Y,Z,W). They can still appreciate in value, but for whichever one you can expect to appreciate more in value, you'll pay a proportionally higher cost in order to capture that increase in value.

The appreciation can be due to the discount rate, or if the actual amount by which the card increases in value ends up being greater than (X*Y)+(Z*W).

I'm not endorsing this idea, just explaining it. You'd expect it to be true if all of the cards were purchased by rational investors who are equally well-informed. Whether it would be true in other markets I don't know.
Got it. Makes good sense to me. Thank you!
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