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Old 12-26-2019, 06:59 AM
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[*]- Reasoning for an assigned grade (Similar to BGS, but with notes unique to card)

This one is really irritating - Pretty much everyone who has been in the hobby for any length of time can get into the "ballpark" on what a card should grade.

Too often you get your slabbed card back with only a

"To Bad"
"Not Good Enough"
"You lose"
"Have Nice Day"
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Old 12-26-2019, 07:15 AM
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- A report for each card, similar to how the diamond industry does it, so you know where the flaws on the card are without having to guess.

- Some objective, impartial, computer-based system that would recognize the “fingerprints” on the card no matter how many times it was submitted.

- No more number grades, just “this is your card, here are the flaws, if you submit it to us again we will know it’s the same card even if you shave the border, recolor it, etc.”
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All the above plus actual centering numbers: 40/60 LR and 30/70 TB. Not sure why that isn’t already done.
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I would use the best parts from the current companies.

Becketts, separate grades for corners, centering, edges, and surface. That way you really know where the good and bad areas are.

PSA, Marketing and registry

SGC, their coming soon scans of every card. Only really do it.

GAI, I really like their slabs. It is a combination of the new PSA slab with the awesome SGC black insert.

Then unlike all of the above keep everything on the up and up.

I know people have talked about a company that just authenticates cards without grades. There is no way that company would last and the owners would lose every penny they put into it.
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Old 12-26-2019, 08:24 AM
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- A report for each card, similar to how the diamond industry does it, so you know where the flaws on the card are without having to guess.



- Some objective, impartial, computer-based system that would recognize the “fingerprints” on the card no matter how many times it was submitted.



- No more number grades, just “this is your card, here are the flaws, if you submit it to us again we will know it’s the same card even if you shave the border, recolor it, etc.”
+1...could not agree more.

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Old 12-26-2019, 08:41 AM
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For those that want to do away with # grades please go into detail on how you would like it labeled.

Would all Authentic cards be labeled Authentic regardless of any alterations?

Would they be separated as Authentic and Authentic Altered?

Would only Authentic unaltered cards be slabbed?
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For those that want to do away with # grades please go into detail on how you would like it labeled.

Would all Authentic cards be labeled Authentic regardless of any alterations?

Would they be separated as Authentic and Authentic Altered?

Would only Authentic unaltered cards be slabbed?
Again, same as diamond industry: “Authentic diamond, here are the flaws.”

Don’t underestimate the power of people who have thousands and millions invested in the subjective, human based, plastic with a number from 1-10 on it, to preserve the status quo.

But when (not if) a technology comes along that’s good enough you will see a paradigm shift, like the iPhone or Netflix or Spotify... etc. etc. I hear some people still have really great cassette tape collections...
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Again, same as diamond industry: “Authentic diamond, here are the flaws.”

Don’t underestimate the power of people who have thousands and millions invested in the subjective, human based, plastic with a number from 1-10 on it, to preserve the status quo.

But when (not if) a technology comes along that’s good enough you will see a paradigm shift, like the iPhone or Netflix or Spotify... etc. etc. I hear some people still have really great cassette tape collections...
The Major Issue is this........People with Big Money Tied up in PSA cards do not want that money/card their investment to be downplayed or labeled as worth less. They will deny any issues with their card in assigned grade. PSA will wholeheartedly agree and continue to pump their brand/product. They have many on their side......I can’t see them going away.
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- A report for each card, similar to how the diamond industry does it, so you know where the flaws on the card are without having to guess.

- Some objective, impartial, computer-based system that would recognize the “fingerprints” on the card no matter how many times it was submitted.

- No more number grades, just “this is your card, here are the flaws, if you submit it to us again we will know it’s the same card even if you shave the border, recolor it, etc.”
I agree with this spot on. We then can look and buy what we can or can’t deal with. It would level market for people that really like a card. They can pay for the card not the grade, grade then doesn’t effect the buyer or dealers leverages on the sale.
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