T205 DRUM and HINDU checklists (updating)....Show them, if you have them

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Ronnie73

NEEDED SCANS

BROAD LEAF
Jack Knight
Briscoe Lord
Fred Payne

Here's Bris Lord Broad Leaf.

[tedzan]

American Lithographic (ALC) printed exactly 32 - T205 subjects with DRUM backs. Furthermore, ALC carried over their A = B = C = D template
from the T206 set by printing AMERICAN BEAUTY, BROAD LEAF, CYCLE, and DRUM backs on matching T205 subjects. This theory was presented
6 years ago on this forum. Refer to..... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ght=t205+hindu


The key factor in this A = B = C = D connection is the Black American Beauty back.

Note that the T205 subjects with the Green American Beauty back will NOT be found with a DRUM back.


AB = BL = CY = DR confirmed check-list......

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James Austin ....………..………..…..…… Austin ...………………..………..........…. Austin ...……………......……...…..….. Austin
John Bates ..………………………………….. Bates ………………………………………...... Bates ………………………………...……... Bates
Beals Becker ..……………………………….. Becker ……………………...…...………….. Becker ..………………………………………... X
George Bell .………………………………….. Bell …..………………………………………….. Bell ……………………………………………… Bell
William Bergen ………………………....... Bergen ………………………………………….. Bergen ……………………………………….. Bergen
Russell Blackburne ……………...………. Blackburne .........................…..... Blackburne ............................... Blackburne
Albert Bridwell ............................ Bridwell ..................................... Bridwell ................................... Bridwell
Mordecai Brown........................... Brown ....................................... Brown ..................................... Brown
Hal Chase (both ears) .……….....…… Chase …………..................……………. Chase ...................................... Chase
Frank Corridon ........................... Corridon .................................... Corridon ................................... Corridon
Thomas Downey ......................... Downey ..................................... Downey ................................... Downey
Louis Evans ................................ Evans ........................................ Evans ...................................... Evans
George Graham (blue signature).... Graham ..................................... Graham ................................... Graham
Buck Herzog ............................... Herzog ...................................... Herzog ...................................... X
Richard Hoblitzell ........................ Hoblitzell .................................... Hoblitzell ................................. Hoblitzell
Miller Huggins ............................ Huggins ……………………...…...………….. Huggins ..………………………………………. X
Jack Knight ................................ Knight ....................................... Knight ...................................... Knight
A. Latham .................................. Latham ..................................... Latham ..................................... Latham
Thomas Leach ............................ Leach ........................................ Leach ....................................... Leach
John Lobert ..………………………………... Lobert ……………………...…...………….... Lobert ..…………………………………………. X

Briscoe Lord ..………………………………… Lord …..………………………………………….. Lord ……………………………………………… Lord
Patrick Moran ............................. Moran ........................................ Moran ...................................…. Moran
Frederick Olmstead ..................... Olmstead ................................... Olmstead .................................. Olmstead
George Paskert ........................... Paskert ...................................... Paskert ..................................... Paskert
Fred Payne ................................. Payne ........................................ Payne ....................................… Payne
Edward Phelps ............................ Phelps ....................................... Phelps ...................................... Phelps
John Quinn ................................. Quinn ........................................ Quinn ....................................... Quinn
Lewis Richie ................................ Richie ........................................ Richie ...................................... Richie
David Shean ............................... Shean ........................................ Shean ...................................... Shean
George Stone ............................. Stone ......................................... Stone ....................................... Stone
Zach Wheat ...........................….. Wheat ........................................ Wheat ...................................….. X
Harry Wolter ………………………………... Wolter .……………………………........…….. Wolter ...................................... Wolter



Note.……. X denotes this T205 subject has yet to be confirmed with the DRUM back.

However, these five subjects have already been confirmed with the A - B - C backs.
Therefore, I expect these 5 guys will eventually be discovered with the DRUM back.


Please chime in if you can confirm any of these 5 guys with the DRUM back, Thanks.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[tedzan]

Hey guys,

T205 DRUM cards don't appear to get the same respect as T206 DRUM's do. And, actually they are as scarce (if not more) than the T206 ones.

T205 HINDU cards are definitely scarcer than the T206 ones.

OK you T205 collectors, let's see some of these gems. The T205 DRUM cards are defined (32 subjects). T205 HINDU cards are not well defined.

To date, 23 subjects are confirmed with the HINDU back, I expect that more of these T205's will be discovered.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[tedzan]

Displayed here is another one of my 75% complete A = B = C = D runs. If anyone on this forum has a spare BROAD LEAF Wolter, email me.......
tedzan11@comcast.net


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This group of 32 subjects (Post #23) were printed with as many as 12 different tobacco backs, which may be the most printed than on any other
T205 subject. I may be wrong on this observation, and I expect you T205 guys will chime in. Feel free to correct me.


Check-list of the T205 backs for this group of 32 subjects.………...

AMERICAN BEAUTY (black print)
BROAD LEAF
CYCLE
DRUM
HASSAN (Factory #30)
HASSAN (Factory #649)
HONEST LONG CUT
PIEDMONT (Factory #25)
PIEDMONT (Factory #42)
POLAR BEAR
SOVEREIGN
SWEET CAPORAL (red print)



TED Z

T206 Reference
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[RCMcKenzie]

There are a lot of great cards on this thread. Looking forward to the opening of T205Resource... Here are a few Drum. I have been meaning to do a T205 Hobby run. Lot's of backs on that one...

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

There are a lot of great cards on this thread. Looking forward to the opening of T205Resource... Here are a few Drum. I have been meaning to do a T205 Hobby run. Lot's of backs on that one...

Happy New Year, Rob

Some nice DRUM's you have there. You could have fun going for a Hoblitzell run.

You are already way ahead of the game, with the DRUM and PIEDMONT Factory #42 backs. Nine of
the remaining 10 backs are relatively easy to find, and of course the BROAD LEAF will be a toughie.

But, then those silly variations ("No Stats", etc.) of Hoblitzell can drive you "nuts"


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[RCMcKenzie]

Happy New Year, Ted.

I was looking at some prior auctions of T205 Hoblitzell "No Stats" and all of the one's I saw had a Hasson Factory 30 back. Is there a Hassan 649 with no stats?

Here's a Titus with a Piedmont 42 back. It might be easier and cheaper for me to just do a Titus back run. Rob