Probstein123 Experiences

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Arazi4442

He's been getting beat up pretty good on the BO forums for knowingly selling altered/trimmed cards. If you search, you can find a post where he was alerted to this and his response was basically, it's in a slab so not my problem.

That's all I need to know. I won't buy from him, high end or otherwise.

Similarly with PWCC

[CMIZ5290]

Trust me, he doesn't give a shit about anything other than himself and laughing all the way to the bank....He also knows that Ebay isn't going to do a freaking thing about it.....

[glynparson]

You will get the card you pay for delivered quickly and securely and if you consign i have always been paid rapidly and have never had an issue with Rick. He accepts a lot of consignments and of course when you deal with that many consignors/consignees some issues will occur.

[sbfinley]

Personally, I have not agreed with him before. I've outted a handful of bad items or misleading listings to him in messages over the years which were all ignored with the exception of one time in which he (or an employee of his - it's been several years to be honest) argued with me over a series of messages that the signature below had been authenticated. They refused to pull the listing and someone paid almost $700 for the card.





PWCC, for better worse, has responded to all messages I've offered about incorrect listings and either pulled the item or amending the listing to describe the item correctly. No Probstein auction I ever alerted them about has been amended or pulled and almost always the auction ended with someone less educated overspending on a bad item.


That being said:

Originally Posted by glynparson

You will get the card you pay for delivered quickly and securely and if you consign i have always been paid rapidly and have never had an issue with Rick. He accepts a lot of consignments and of course when you deal with that many consignors/consignees some issues will occur.

This is also true. I choose not consign with him for the reasons I listed above, but I still regularly buy from him because at the end of the day if someone has the item I want at the price I want then I could really care less about that person's business ethics. It's just baseball cards at the end of the day. I'm not holier than thou. I do my due diligence and caveat emptor.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

Personally, I have not agreed with him before. I've outted a handful of bad items or misleading listings to him in messages over the years which were all ignored with the exception of one time in which he (or an employee of his - it's been several years to be honest) argued with me over a series of messages that the signature below had been authenticated. They refused to pull the listing and someone paid almost $700 for the card.





PWCC, for better worse, has responded to all messages I've offered about incorrect listings and either pulled the item or amending the listing to describe the item correctly. No Probstein auction I ever alerted them about has been amended or pulled and almost always the auction ended with someone less educated overspending on a bad item.


That being said:




This is also true. I choose not consign with him for the reasons I listed above, but I still regularly buy from him because at the end of the day if someone has the item I want at the price I want then I could really care less about that person's business ethics. It's just baseball cards at the end of the day. I'm not holier than thou. I do my due diligence and caveat emptor.

Strangely I do care about the ethics of dealers with cards/memorabilia. Weirdly I have bought a few watches from some seriously sketchy people.

[charlietheexterminator]

Bought from Probstein and sold through Probstein, never an issue. I recently needed to raise some funds quickly for a large purchase, told this to Rick. I overnighted some cards to him, he posted them that day. The auction was over the following Tuesday evening, the next day the funds were in my account. He did the right thing by me.

[Rhotchkiss]

As a buyer, I have never had an issue with Probstein. I have never sold anything with him. Two major differences between Probstein and PWCC (1) Probstein does not advise “clients”, opine on condition with stickers, or put out “market” info; instead, he just lists the item, often with nominal or insufficient description, and (2) I am not sure, but I do not think he takes economic positions in most/many items he sells via auction; he does have BINs but not sure if those are his or clients looking for exposure. Probstein seems to be a true eBay storefront/consignor, listing other people’s stuff en mass and moving product for people. To me, he is not a true AH but just a mass mover of stuff on ebay.

[ronniehatesjazz]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

Personally, I have not agreed with him before. I've outted a handful of bad items or misleading listings to him in messages over the years which were all ignored with the exception of one time in which he (or an employee of his - it's been several years to be honest) argued with me over a series of messages that the signature below had been authenticated. They refused to pull the listing and someone paid almost $700 for the card.





PWCC, for better worse, has responded to all messages I've offered about incorrect listings and either pulled the item or amending the listing to describe the item correctly. No Probstein auction I ever alerted them about has been amended or pulled and almost always the auction ended with someone less educated overspending on a bad item.


That being said:




This is also true. I choose not consign with him for the reasons I listed above, but I still regularly buy from him because at the end of the day if someone has the item I want at the price I want then I could really care less about that person's business ethics. It's just baseball cards at the end of the day. I'm not holier than thou. I do my due diligence and caveat emptor.

That is the worst Jordan forgery I’ve ever seen. Slab or no slab, whoever bought it should’ve known better.

[ALBB]

Have bought tons of stuff from him..no problems

[clydepepper]

As I've said many times on this forum:

probstein is STILL dead to me.

I wouldn't waste a lump of coal on that sumbitch!


Merry Christmas to everyone else.

[mferronibc]

So about 8 months ago when my son was born I decided to start a vintage card collection for him and bought a pretty nicely graded 1960 Mantle to kick things off. Knew nothing about the current landscape of the industry, trimming, grading controversy, etc. like I do now and naively dove right in. Bought the card from this seller, fine transaction and nice looking card, but since have read nothing but really shady stuff about him and his business. Makes me really regret my rookie mistake cause every time I look at that card I wonder if it’s been altered instead of enjoying it. Guess I’ll never know for sure but lesson learned that in this hobby it’s all about feeling good about what you buy (and who you buy from) not just the end product in your hands!

[Snapolit1]

He has 14500 positive eBay feedbacks in the last month and 6 negative ones. Yet in this board he is the second coming of Satan. Kind of an odd disconnect, no?

He has 668,000 documented transactions and a 99.9% eBay positive feedback. What exactly should eBay do with him?
I’ve never had an issue with him.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by mferronibc

cause every time I look at that card I wonder if it’s been altered instead of enjoying it. Guess I’ll never know for sure but lesson learned that in this hobby it’s all about feeling good about what you buy (and who you buy from) not just the end product in your hands!

You can always post it here and get our opinion on the card. Just a thought.

[Phil68]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

You can always post it here and get our opinion on the card. Just a thought.

That's exactly what I will do when I get a questionable card. This is the place for the best in the business. It takes a true card geek to know what's what.

[Phil68]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

As I've said many times on this forum:

probstein is STILL dead to me.

I wouldn't waste a lump of coal on that sumbitch!


Merry Christmas to everyone else.

Ok....just so we're clear, Mr. Culpepper, you do not acknowledge Mr. Probsteins existence and, thus, do NOT participate in his auctions. I can respect this stance and thoroughly enjoyed your delivery

Reading everything, it sounds like he's merely a funnel of material with no filter. His theory is "I do volume. My value is that your item will be seen.
Take it or leave it. I'm too busy to hold your hand and follow up when a buyer isn't happy. PSA grades 'em--not my issue. I have more items to list. Move on."

I get it.

[bnorth]

If you are interested in a card he is selling you need ask a few questions about the item and be sure to let him know you are very interested in the item. It makes a big difference if you do this.

[MULLINS5]

Originally Posted by Phil68

His theory is "I do volume. My value is that your item will be seen.
Take it or leave it."

That's eBay's value. Probstein's value is for those who don't have time to list, are too lazy, and/or are laundering bad product.

[Exhibitman]

Not much to add other than I've won several items and always received them timely and well packed.

[aconte]

He can also help sell your card over and over again.

For example, this Acuna Heritage red auto numbered to 15 sold on:

Nov 28th

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Topps-...p2047675.l2557

Nov 20th

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Topps-...p2047675.l2557

Oct 21st

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Topps-...p2047675.l2557

So as you can see, his auctions are a good option if you don't get paid or if
you decide you just want to resell what you just bought. Keep on listing!

[BigBeerGut]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

As I've said many times on this forum:

probstein is STILL dead to me.

I wouldn't waste a lump of coal on that sumbitch!


Merry Christmas to everyone else.

Why ?
What is the reason ?

And WHO are YOU anyway? Some guy on a couch at best!

Items come up for auction. If you do not like the item or the auction house do not bid otherwise shushup.

MJD

[Phil68]

[QUOTE=BigBeerGut;1944635]Why ?
What is the reason ?

And WHO are YOU anyway? Some guy on a couch at best!

Items come up for auction. If you do not like the item or the auction house do not bid otherwise shushup.

He's probably just messing around.
"Dead to me" is just a dramatic, sometimes tongue-in-cheek thing to say.
I started this thread to gather some background on business dealings folks have had. I had ONE odd experience at a show and a handful of folks randomly say they didn't care for Rick. I didn't want to dismiss Rick and his services due to his momentary rudeness and a couple of bitter buyers. He was very rude but, heck, he could've been HUNGRY, for all I know.
I gathered great information here and am happy to do business with Rick based on that. He is exactly what he appears to be. He lists terrific items and seems responsive to me as well.
Let's all just get along. None of this is terribly important anyway, Lol.