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Old 12-21-2019, 02:09 PM
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Your comment makes me think about how a professional athlete typically reacts when getting caught using PED’s. Initial denial, comments around unintentionally taking something that was in cold medication or a supplement, having it all be a bunch of BS, and then serving the suspension or banishment.
Bingo...

They are so used to being put on pedestals, treated like Gods, and given perks/preferential treatment, that they don't know how to respond when confronted on something real.

They think they can talk their way out of controversy with condescending language, because nobody has ever had the nerve to challenge or confront them. They've been conditioned by the adoring public, to think they're invincible, above the law, and immune from such wrongdoings and crimes.

Very much like the PED examples cited above.
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Old 12-21-2019, 02:34 PM
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Darren Rovell tweeting about it.
Lots of comments including- what is card trimming
Still so many people who have absolutely no idea about any of this.
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Old 12-21-2019, 02:58 PM
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Darren Rovell tweeting about it.
Lots of comments including- what is card trimming
Still so many people who have absolutely no idea about any of this.
Yup... maybe "celebrity involvement" is what it takes for people to eventually catch on to the scandal and the Third Party Grading sham.

Though CU stock is finally trending downward, perhaps more widespread publicity like this will finally get it to tank. If I were a shareholder, I'd be selling before this story inevitably hits the presses even bigger.

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Old 12-21-2019, 03:16 PM
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Sadly PSA is Teflon they will never be held accountable........ Emotions and Love of the Sport/Hobby cloud logic.

In my Opinion Investors will always be skeptical of this industry.....they’re going to find other hobbies for capital growth and appreciation. Ruined by Adam Henry’s
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Real bummer what has come out. I haven't bought a significant card in quite a while now...gun-shy. Even years ago, when I was in the T206 star card market, many cards just didn't look right sizewise & boarderwise. I often passed on suspect looking cards and waited for appropriate looking examples. Now it seems I pass altogether. Heck if I am going to pony up thousands for a single card now this situation has blown up. Just sucks. Sigh.
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Real bummer what has come out. I haven't bought a significant card in quite a while now...gun-shy. Even years ago, when I was in the T206 star card market, many cards just didn't look right sizewise & boarderwise. I often passed on suspect looking cards and waited for appropriate looking examples. Now it seems I pass altogether. Heck if I am going to pony up thousands for a single card now this situation has blown up. Just sucks. Sigh.
Provenance. Knowing who slabbed it will be a good thing in the future. Pedigreed cards (like the Lionel Carter Collection) should sell for a premium. Perhaps they will now that people are aware of the pervasive doctoring.
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Provenance!
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Provenance. Knowing who slabbed it will be a good thing in the future. Pedigreed cards (like the Lionel Carter Collection) should sell for a premium. Perhaps they will now that people are aware of the pervasive doctoring.
The ironic thing about that statement, is I have seen "Lionel Carter" cards with the "A" grade. I am pretty sure Mr.Carter didn't trim cards.
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