Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Leon

I know Sean pretty well and do not believe he will be found to be engaged in fraud. Any one of us could accidentally sell a bad TPG graded card which we didn't know was messed up.

we'll that's true, considering at least half are fake, IMHO

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

we'll that's true, considering at least half are fake, IMHO

Settle down, Chuck .
I prefer to use the half glass full terminology and say most of TPG graded cards are good.
This whole debacle has just made it so much more relevant to not buy the holder and KNOW your cards, yourself.

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[phikappapsi]

There should be a grading company that simply assesses authenticity. No "grades". Just tell me if it's real so I can be 100% sure I'm not buying a reprint online. Beyond that. Every buyer can make their own determination on condition. At least then all the fraud would be above board.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by phikappapsi

There should be a grading company that simply assesses authenticity. No "grades". Just tell me if it's real so I can be 100% sure I'm not buying a reprint online. Beyond that. Every buyer can make their own determination on condition. At least then all the fraud would be above board.

AMEN!

I've been saying this exact thing for years. But nobody cares or agrees...

They're all too caught up in their Pops, 9s and 10s. I guess that somehow a third party randomly assigning a number grade (right or wrong) gives them a high of sorts.

Would love to see it all come crumbling down, but am not holding my breath.

[Republicaninmass]

Is there a prize for the most people posting a row on one's ignore list?

[perezfan]

I'd consider it a badge of honor to be on that list.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I'd consider it a badge of honor to be on that list.

Not quite there yet!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Is there a prize for the most people posting a row on one's ignore list?

Hi Ted.

Now if someone will quote this Ted can see it.

[Johnny630]

Does anyone see a good long term outlook of this?

For me it’s going to take Until most of the money comes out of all this.......

It’s all cyclical..........Here is what I see envisioning happening........

No TPG’s will be held accountable.....their options become less valuable......doesn’t matter my mind is made up, their complicit, extremely inept, and or way worse .......

No Trimmers will do jail time.......no auction houses will do jail time.....
Repeat cycle 10-15 years down the road
You can only polish a turd so long......it’s still and will always be a turd .....very said. Prayers for something positive in 2020 for this crooked industry

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Hi Ted.

Now if someone will quote this Ted can see it.

I love Ted, such a kidder. double blocked. Rats

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Hi Ted.

Now if someone will quote this Ted can see it.

No such luck

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Leon

Settle down, Chuck .
I prefer to use the half glass full terminology and say most of TPG graded cards are good.
This whole debacle has just made it so much more relevant to not buy the holder and KNOW your cards, yourself.

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That's more like it, you're right. Half are probably real!!

I'm usually not that negative, believe it or not