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Old 12-16-2019, 04:01 PM
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I would definitely think so. Jay has it on his list. It is the Ryder cabinet.
I should have been more specific

Would the 1893 Pifer and Becker make the list?

I actually prefer it to the Ryder, astatically speaking, though both are beautiful.
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:01 PM
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I should have been more specific

Would the 1893 Pifer and Becker make the list?

I actually prefer it to the Ryder, astatically speaking, though both are beautiful.
Here's the Jimmy McAleer Pifer & Becker...it's the best I can do...
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Old 12-16-2019, 06:49 PM
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Here's the Jimmy McAleer Pifer & Becker...it's the best I can do...
that is beautiful as well.
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Old 12-16-2019, 07:47 PM
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Here's the Jimmy McAleer Pifer & Becker...it's the best I can do...
That is a beauty. I love these 1880s-90s cabinets.
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Old 12-16-2019, 08:12 PM
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I grabbed these images from the internet. They are the 1891 Ryder and the 1893 Pifer & Becker Cy Young cabinets from his days with the Cleveland Spiders.
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Are the Cy Young cabinets more valuable than the 1890 Just So. Or is that a card so excluded from this list? I agree on the 1871 Forest city image. Anson the big reason and that not a monetary but historical significance that Forest City played in the opening day game of the National Association in 1871 launching the first professional Baseball League.
Discussed many times here on Net54 are the period Woodcuts that depict many of these same players and teams for a tiny fraction of the price. A shame that a cabinet of the 1874 Boston team or better yet this image of the 1866 Arhletic of Philadelphia vs Atlantic of Brooklyn has yet to come to market as a photo.
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Are the Cy Young cabinets more valuable than the 1890 Just So. Or is that a card so excluded from this list? I agree on the 1871 Forest city image. Anson the big reason and that not a monetary but historical significance that Forest City played in the opening day game of the National Association in 1871 launching the first professional Baseball League.
Discussed many times here on Net54 are the period Woodcuts that depict many of these same players and teams for a tiny fraction of the price. A shame that a cabinet of the 1874 Boston team or better yet this image of the 1866 Arhletic of Philadelphia vs Atlantic of Brooklyn has yet to come to market as a photo.

The Just So Cy Young card, which depicts the same image as the 1893 Pifer & Becker cabinet, is worth many multiples of either of the Cy Young cabinet cards. It is included in the lists of cards in the other thread.

Great woodcuts. The image of the 1874 Boston team is known in cabinet form.
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Old 12-17-2019, 04:04 AM
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The centerpiece of my collection. I believe there are 2 or 3 known.
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Are the Cy Young cabinets more valuable than the 1890 Just So. Or is that a card so excluded from this list? I agree on the 1871 Forest city image. Anson the big reason and that not a monetary but historical significance that Forest City played in the opening day game of the National Association in 1871 launching the first professional Baseball League.
Discussed many times here on Net54 are the period Woodcuts that depict many of these same players and teams for a tiny fraction of the price. A shame that a cabinet of the 1874 Boston team or better yet this image of the 1866 Arhletic of Philadelphia vs Atlantic of Brooklyn has yet to come to market as a photo.
It's an easy issue to get confused over but in 1871 there were actually two Forest City teams -- Cleveland and Rockford, and the first professional game in 1871 involved Cleveland; Anson played for the Rockfords. Cleveland's opponent was the Fort Wayne Kekionga team, which existed for that one season only.

I agree that woodcuts are a tremendous bargain compared to what other items sell for, and some of them as you point out show images not currently known in photographic form. That 1874 Boston cabinet in Gary's collection is my favorite 19th century team cabinet. It is an artistic pose depicting the best team of the period and on it were many HOFers and other important players.
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What about best tintype? I really like the Atwater team tintype.
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Are the Cy Young cabinets more valuable than the 1890 Just So. Or is that a card so excluded from this list? I agree on the 1871 Forest city image. Anson the big reason and that not a monetary but historical significance that Forest City played in the opening day game of the National Association in 1871 launching the first professional Baseball League.
Discussed many times here on Net54 are the period Woodcuts that depict many of these same players and teams for a tiny fraction of the price. A shame that a cabinet of the 1874 Boston team or better yet this image of the 1866 Arhletic of Philadelphia vs Atlantic of Brooklyn has yet to come to market as a photo.
Question--What monetary value would you estimate on your 1871 Forest City Cabinet photo if you decided to sell ?--thanks
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One of my favorites, the 1877 Boston team CdV with George, Harry, O'Rourke and White.
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