PWCC Auction Ending Tonight - Interesting Results

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by theuclakid

i was interested in the PWCC 57 Williams PSA 6.5 last night....it went for well over $600 (a solid 7 price)....clearly there was shill bidding going on, as the bidder with 98% activity with PWCC was high bidder....just dont trust his auctions, low bids or not.....Bruce Perry

You mean the dead centered card with excellent eye appeal that out sold a 7 in the same auction? Yea clearly it was shilled. No one pays over vcp for centered cards, right?

[pokerplyr80]

As to the rest of the current pwcc auction there seem to be more nice Cobb cards available compared to recent auctions. Maybe one guy consigned them all. Should be easy enough to compare prices to auctions ending this week at heritage and REA to see if the net54 boycott is hurting prices.

[frankbmd]

Any Net54 boycott has to have a tremendous effect on auction results.

After all we are such a unified monolithic caucus where seldom is heard a disparaging word and every day is filled with sunshine and good will.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

You mean the dead centered card with excellent eye appeal that out sold a 7 in the same auction? Yea clearly it was shilled. No one pays over vcp for centered cards, right?

I just got a record price for a 1958 Koufax PSA 4 simply because it was centered. I was shocked it brought that much. But everyone knows that of all 4 criteria, centering is boss.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I just got a record price for a 1958 Koufax PSA 4 simply because it was centered. I was shocked it brought that much. But everyone knows that of all 4 criteria, centering is boss.

Apparently not everyone knows.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Apparently not everyone knows.

Not everyone knows what?

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Not everyone knows what?

That centered cards go for a premium. It seems to confuse members every time. Some assume the sale was fake, or the auction shilled. Many turn out to be legitimate transactions from collectors who stepped up to obtain a nice looking card. Some even make a post defending their purchase.

[Republicaninmass]

The only thing that CANT be doctored, is centering. I guess you can make it look better, but centered cards are ripe for doctors

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

The only thing that CANT be doctored, is centering. I guess you can make it look better, but centered cards are ripe for doctors

Centering is doctored ALL THE TIME. How many hundreds of the cards exposed on BO recently have one border trimmed, to emulate the other side? The doctors are hacking off large portions of the thicker border, simply to even them up.

PSA can't (or won't) catch it, even though the altered cards are undersized. Check out the Johnny Adams Jr. thread on Blowout for many examples of this process...

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...333320&page=10