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Old 12-05-2019, 08:48 PM
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Default Reflections on 1949 BOWMAN's (25 HOFers, many Rookies)...show-N-tell us of your cards

Hi Mike and Tony

I have many overprinted cards from this set. Both Lo #s and Hi #s. Plus a full uncut 36 card sheet of which cards numbering 1 - 36 are overprinted
with bios of cards numbering 4, 74 - 108.
All 7 sheets printed in this set consist of 36 cards. And the printers would test a new series of printing plates by overprinting them on older series of
scrap sheets.

Cards from the 1st sheet (#1 - 3, 73, 5 - 36) overprinted like Tony's Reese card are quite plentiful.

The 5th sheet cards (#145 - 180) overprinted with 7th sheet cards (#217 - 240, plus the 12 variations) are very, very rare. I have only about 14 of
these....and, I have been searching for these Hi # overprints for 40+ years.


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Old 12-06-2019, 03:00 PM
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Hey guys,

Here's an example of a Hi # card overprinted. Rigney (#170) was printed on the 5th sheet. The overprint of the Evans back occurred during a test run by the Printer,
prior to the final press runs of the 7th sheet cards.

I acquired this card (and approx. a dozen Hi # cards with overprints) in 1982. I have not seen any since. If any of you have Hi # overprinted cards, please post them.
I would really appreciate seeing these very rare cards.

Thanks.


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Old 12-06-2019, 06:33 PM
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My BOWMAN PCL find...…
I received a call from a guy back in the late 1980's who grew up in the Philadelphia area. Jim wanted to sell me his BOWMAN and TOPPS
collections. He collected Sportscards as a kid in the late 1940's and early 1950's.


I was especially interested in his 1949 BOWMAN cards since I was starting a 2nd set. Jim had 150+ 1949 BOWMAN's. When he started to
describe them to me, I was in for quite a surprise for they included six PCL cards. He recalled these PCL cards were intermixed with the
regular BOWMAN cards in 5-cent packs. Jim recalls being confused, since the PCL cards were in the same packs as cards whose numbers
were in the 100's.
Incidentally, the cards in his entire collection were in amazing condition. Needless to say, the PCL cards were upgrades into my PCL set.


Here is the first page (of 3 pages) from my 1949 BOWMAN album. which includes the PCL set.


……....… Lee Anthony ……………….……….…… George Metkovich ………..………...…...….. Ralph Hodgin

…….. "Sheriff" Gassaway ………………..…...…..… Tony Freitas …..……...………..……. Gordon Maltzberger


……..… Ken Holcombe ………………..…………..…… Don Ross ……...……..…….…...…...… "Inky" Coscarart

…...….. "Jeep" Handley …………………….....…… Herman Besse ……….....…..…………...…. John Lazor



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Old 12-07-2019, 05:24 AM
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Another amazing thread with interesting Bowman info! Thanks much.
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Old 12-07-2019, 04:02 PM
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Another amazing thread with interesting Bowman info! Thanks much.

jt

I appreciate your complimentary words.

Stay tuned for more information regarding this set of cards.


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Old 12-07-2019, 07:01 PM
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Reprising my Alan Rosen (Mr. Mint) story in order to tell you how it ended......

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My first complete 1949 BOWMAN PCL set.

In 1984 at the Atlantic City BB card Show, I checked-out Alan "Mr Mint" Rosen's booth. He had his usual spectacular display of "oldies-n-goodies".
Including a very seldom seen complete 1949 BOWMAN PCL set.

"How much, Alan ?"....I asked. He said 2K. I said I have exactly 2K in my pocket. But, I need to spend some of it elsewhere. He suggested I give
him 500, and we can complete this deal at a later date. He removed this set off the table and told me stop by to take it with me upon leaving the
show.
The following week I drove to his home in North Jersey. He was more interested in trading than cash. I was aware of this, so I brought an eclectic
bunch of goodies. You'll have quite a laugh when you find out what he took in trade for the 1500 balance, which I owed him to complete the deal.
OK, of all the vintage "goodies" I offered him in trade to complete this PCL set deal, Alan took ten - 1982 TOPPS Traded sets, and $500 in cash. Those 10 sets cost
me only $5 each in 1982. Needless to say, I was very delighted with this deal.

My advice to any one on this forum, who really enjoys a serious challenge....try to complete this PCL set. After all, you only have to go on the hunt for 36 cards
This set has increased at least five-fold in value since I first started collecting these cards in the early 1980's.


And, displayed here is the 3rd (of 3 pages) from my 1949 BOWMAN album which includes the 1949 PCL set.


…..…..… Johnny Rucker ………………………….…… Jack Brewer ………….…....…....… Dominic Dallessandro

…....….. Dick Lajeski ……….….……...………..…… Albie Glossop ………..…….….……….…. Frank Kelleher



………...… Les Scarsella ………………..………….…… Joe Marty …………….………...……..… Bill Raimondi

……...... Gene Handley …………..……....………..…… Tom Seats ……….…..…..…….……. "Mickey" Burnett




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Hi Ted,
Great story and nice cards!
I was wondering - is there a generally accepted opinion on how many of the 1949 Bowman PCL cards exist today?
Thanks!
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My BOWMAN PCL find...…
I received a call from a guy back in the late 1980's who grew up in the Philadelphia area. Jim wanted to sell me his BOWMAN and TOPPS
collections. He collected Sportscards as a kid in the late 1940's and early 1950's.


I was especially interested in his 1949 BOWMAN cards since I was starting a 2nd set. Jim had 150+ 1949 BOWMAN's. When he started to
describe them to me, I was in for quite a surprise for they included six PCL cards. He recalled these PCL cards were intermixed with the
regular BOWMAN cards in 5-cent packs. Jim recalls being confused, since the PCL cards were in the same packs as cards whose numbers
were in the 100's.
Incidentally, the cards in his entire collection were in amazing condition. Needless to say, the PCL cards were upgrades into my PCL set.


Here is the first page (of 3 pages) from my 1949 BOWMAN album. which includes the PCL set.


……....… Lee Anthony ……………….……….…… George Metkovich ………..………...…...….. Ralph Hodgin

…….. "Sheriff" Gassaway ………………..…...…..… Tony Freitas …..……...………..……. Gordon Maltzberger


……..… Ken Holcombe ………………..…………..…… Don Ross ……...……..…….…...…...… "Inky" Coscarart

…...….. "Jeep" Handley …………………….....…… Herman Besse ……….....…..…………...…. John Lazor



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Hi Ted,
Great story and nice cards!
I was wondering - is there a generally accepted opinion on how many of the 1949 Bowman PCL cards exist today?
Thanks!
Jason
We lost Ted and his wonderful wealth of knowledge at the end of last year (or it might have been the beginning of this year).

Perhaps someone else on here has an idea about this topic?


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I do not know how many of the PCL cards were produced or how many still exist. I was finally able to complete the set but it ws a long road finding them all, despite the fact there are no real big names in the set.

Mark Macrae who co authored the 49 PCL article with Ted is a member and has posted about it. There is also a subsequent article by Tim Jenkins for SABR
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Here is a post war thread on the set where Mark posted some info

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=348776

Jenkins article

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrE...M6OLk0Xn4vInA-

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We lost Ted and his wonderful wealth of knowledge at the end of last year (or it might have been the beginning of this year).

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We lost Ted and his wonderful wealth of knowledge at the end of last year (or it might have been the beginning of this year).

Perhaps someone else on here has an idea about this topic?


Brian


Oh! My gosh, I am sorry to hear that, and certainly didn't mean to sound insensitive. I have been a member here for maybe about 20 years, but my attention has been very spotty over the last several years. Ted was fantastic to "listen to" for a long time!

Thanks for the reply on his behalf.
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Oh! My gosh, I am sorry to hear that, and certainly didn't mean to sound insensitive. I have been a member here for maybe about 20 years, but my attention has been very spotty over the last several years. Ted was fantastic to "listen to" for a long time!

Thanks for the reply on his behalf.
Jason
Jason,

While I can't speak for others, I didn't think you sounded insensitive at all! Also, I'm of the opinion that the best way to continue the legacy of such a kind person is to continue to talk about him, his contributions and the stories many of us have with him; whether it's an experience at a show or simply interacting with his posts.

Ted entertained my questions for hours when I was a kid, up in Cooperstown and I was able to reconnect with him as an adult through Net54 and even go to a Philly Show to see him, before he passed. I'll talk about him for as long as I'm involved in this hobby and I'm sure others feel the same way. You take care.

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