Reflections on 1949 BOWMAN's (25 HOFers, many Rookies)...show-N-tell us of your cards

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by jason.1969

And is there a story to some of the cards having the player name on the front and some not?

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Hi Jason

I guess you are referring to the 12 variations in this set. As you know, the set comprises of 240 subjects. However, each sheet was printed on a 36-card format.
This number (240) is not divisible by 36; therefore, BOWMAN had their Printer add 12 cards to fill in the blank spaces on the 7th (last) sheet.

Six subjects were derived from the 3rd sheet. Six more from the 4th sheet. You can see these 12 guys here on my simulated 7th sheet. Starting with Scheffing,
Evans, Majeski, and continuing the on the bottom row.with Mize, Brazle, Dillinger, Rizzuto, Murtaugh, Fitzgerald, Priddy, Salkeld, Zoldak.

Feel free to ask me any more questions regarding this set.





TED Z

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[jimmysuitcase]

Ted, our appreciation for your wealth of knowledge is only rivaled by our appreciation for your willingness to share it. Thank you for maintaining this thread!

I have amassed 249 of the 252, and I lack three big cards (Paige, J.Robinson, Ashburn) due to budgetary constraints. I've HELD those three cards before...

I have one slate gray (a hi#) and two PCL cards as well. Roe was one of my last acquisitions, and I also had trouble for a while getting #174 Terry Moore - so much so that I sprung for a low grade dupe when I saw one pop up. The toughest variation for me to locate was Murtaugh. I also have a handful of overprinted backs, including one that features Campanella.

I put together most of my set about 15-20 years ago, picked up a smattering of cards more recently, and will likely remain stuck on 249 unless I find a low grade trader or change income tax brackets. :-)

Please keep the info flowing! I really enjoyed seeing scarcities like the baseball bank, PCL wrapper, and the uncut sheets.

-James

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by jimmysuitcase

Ted, our appreciation for your wealth of knowledge is only rivaled by our appreciation for your willingness to share it. Thank you for maintaining this thread!

I have amassed 249 of the 252, and I lack three big cards (Paige, J.Robinson, Ashburn) due to budgetary constraints. I've HELD those three cards before...

I have one slate gray (a hi#) and two PCL cards as well. Roe was one of my last acquisitions, and I also had trouble for a while getting #174 Terry Moore - so much so that I sprung for a low grade dupe when I saw one pop up. The toughest variation for me to locate was Murtaugh. I also have a handful of overprinted backs, including one that features Campanella.

I put together most of my set about 15-20 years ago, picked up a smattering of cards more recently, and will likely remain stuck on 249 unless I find a low grade trader or change income tax brackets. :-)

Please keep the info flowing! I really enjoyed seeing scarcities like the baseball bank, PCL wrapper, and the uncut sheets.

-James

Hi jimmysuitcase

That's a cool name. And, thank you for all your kind words.

First, I'm curious regarding the Hi # slate card you have.... what card is it ?

Interesting to hear that the Preacher Roe card was one of your last cards. And, Terry Moore is indeed a tough card to find. I have a nice one for you, if you would like to upgrade.

Stay tuned there is more interesting things to share with you regarding these neat 1949 "gems".



TED Z

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[jimmysuitcase]

Thanks for your response, Ted. My slate hi# is pictured below next to his normal counterpart.

[G1911]

I'm building this set right now, in low grade, with 81 cards to go. I really underrated the high numbers before starting this set, they are pretty tough comparatively. I've got a slate Joe Tipton, and plan to do the white/grey backs in series 1.


I like and hate this set. I like it as the first of the post-war 'full size' mainstream sets, and I've grown to like the odd half-colorization used in 1949 by Leaf and Bowman. As a set collector who doesn't care about rookies, all the star rookies and their increased prices sure can get annoying though, for cards that are less attractive (In my subjective opinion) than pretty much any of the mainstream 50's sets featuring the same players. The Jackie card I have never understood how it can be reasonably considered a rookie at all. I've had a ton of fun picking up the commons though as part of my full Bowman run (all my other sets are 0-5 cards away from completion).

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by G1911

I'm building this set right now, in low grade, with 81 cards to go. I really underrated the high numbers before starting this set, they are pretty tough comparatively. I've got a slate Joe Tipton, and plan to do the white/grey backs in series 1.


I like and hate this set. I like it as the first of the post-war 'full size' mainstream sets, and I've grown to like the odd half-colorization used in 1949 by Leaf and Bowman. As a set collector who doesn't care about rookies, all the star rookies and their increased prices sure can get annoying though, for cards that are less attractive (In my subjective opinion) than pretty much any of the mainstream 50's sets featuring the same players.

The Jackie card I have never understood how it can be reasonably considered a rookie at all.

I've had a ton of fun picking up the commons though as part of my full Bowman run (all my other sets are 0-5 cards away from completion).

G1911

You are a true collector...... Thanks for sharing your thoughts regarding this set.

And yes, the 1949 BOWMAN Jackie Robinson is far from being his "rookie" card.


ROOKIE card.....issued Summer 1947 ..…..……………..….....……. 1948 ……..…...…..…....…... Early Spring 1949





Mid Spring 1949





TED Z

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[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by tedzan

G1911

You are a true collector...... Thanks for sharing your thoughts regarding this set.

And yes, the 1949 BOWMAN Jackie Robinson is far from being his "rookie" card.

You forgot the Swell Sport Thrills!

Jackie has so many early issues and all this can just create confusion among us collectors. His 1948 Leaf has the crown at the moment and I think it should stay that way. This was his first card issued by a major US card manufacturer. Furthermore, it comes from one of the best baseball sets ever made.

We also want to be careful here that Jackie doesn't end up going the "Pele route." Pele had a few rookie cards, which were manufactured between the years of 1958 to 1960, sell for large amounts of money. The collecting world started to take notice, and next thing you know, he now has about twenty-plus rookies! Here is the latest discovery:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-A-Gaze...4AAOSwgOddzw05

It looks hand-cut to me and PSA ended up grading this piece of garbage. I had to walk away from all this madness.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by tedzan

ROOKIE card.....issued Summer 1947 .…..……………..….....……. 1948 ....……..…...…..…....… 1948
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Early Spring 1949 ..………...………...................…...………. Mid Spring 1949

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TED Z
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Ohhhh ! I forgot the 1948 SWELL GUM JRobby. Thanks for reminding me, Jason.

Furthermore, it's really refreshing to hear some one else on this forum agree with me regarding the 1949 LEAF cards.
Thanks again, Jason.


TED Z

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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by jimmysuitcase

Thanks for your response, Ted. My slate hi# is pictured below next to his normal counterpart.

jimmysuitcase

Thanks, I have "Buddy" Kerr.

I've been tracking the Hi # slates which have been found.
To date, I have 26 slates from the Hi# series.



TED Z

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[robinsonmantle]

Great posting and so much great information about this set of cards.

Here are few cards I have.

[The Detroit Collector]

Since this thread has been resurrected

[tedzan]

The source of many of the player's images in the 1949 BOWMAN set are the various Team Photo Packs (25 photos)
issued at the Stadiums in 1948. For example....here's the photo of Paige from my Cleveland Indians Stadium pack.








TED Z

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[jingram058]

Originally Posted by tedzan

The source of many of the player's images in the 1949 BOWMAN set are the various Team Photo Packs (25 photos)
issued at the Stadiums in 1948. For example....here's the photo of Paige from my Cleveland Indians Stadium pack.








TED Z

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The 49 Bowman Leroy "Satchell" Paige is his best card, hands down, of all the cards of him ever made. He has other nice cards, but that one is the tops.

[Snowman]

This is an awesome thread! Thanks for sharing, Ted!

[rjackson44]

I have half this set what i will tell you they have gotten very expensive.Great cards guys octavio

[michael3322]

Amazing cards.

It really is impossible to overstate how incredible Roy Campanella was...3x MVP during an MLB career that lasted <10 years.

You can watch Vin Scully's famous call in 1957 when 93k Dodgers' fans lit matches to pay tribute to Roy after his accident:
https://youtu.be/XfXB_THdp3o

[Seven]

Out of curiosity could anyone explain why Campanella's hat, does not contain the Dodgers logo and instead is just a blank blue cap? Looks like Bowman painted over whatever logo was on his hat with a dark shade of blue paint!

I didn't even know of the PCL set before discovering this thread! You learn something new everyday!

[prewarsports]

I have seen the photo used to make the card and if my memory serves me right, it is a Montreal cap.

[tedzan]

Many of the SLATE cards are Hand-Cut from 36-card uncut sheets. However, a good number of these printing anomalies are also Factory-Cut.

The examples displayed here are the tougher Hi # cards in the set. These Hi # SLATE's are considerably tougher to find than the Lo # Slate's.






TED Z

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[tedzan]

In the Spring of 1949, us young dudes were mystified to get card #73 (Billy Cox) in the first series of 36 cards....but no card #4.
This 1st series uncut sheet tells the story.


--------#1---------------#2-----------------#3-----------------#73----------------#5---------

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Please excuse the bifurcation of this 36-card sheet, as my Scanner is not large enough to scan the complete sheet.


TED Z

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[darkhorse9]

This set is my current obsession. I've completed the first four series except for the Jackie. Working on series 5 and have about a third of them so far.

Frustrating to hear this might be the toughest series to complete. I like working sets by series. Finish one before moving on yo the next.

My reasonable expectation is that I will finish the set within the next year minus the big five (Jackie, Satchel, Snider, Ashburn, Doby) and then figure out a way to accumulate funds to knock those off. That may take many more years.

[e6phillips]

49 Bowman Dodgers