Rosen 1952 Topps Find

[Foo3112]

Personally, I don't think he robbed anyone. Sure, he made a killing in profit but he certainly didn't rob anyone. The seller and him came to an agreement and money was exchanged. As it was mentioned, Rosen took a big risk as well since vintage baseball cards weren't viewed as the investment they are today. Not sure why so many people get sour over this. If anything, we all dream about just owning one of those in just about any condition. He was a lucky SOB if anything.

[samosa4u]

You two make some good points.

I didn't know he had to take out a loan. He obviously had to pay interest on it. And yes, I'm assuming he had to pay quite a bit to advertise his big find. We also have to look at travelling as well - did he have to fly out to a few places to sell these? And finally, yes, there was that big risk involved. He sold them all off pretty quickly and this hurt the prices as a result. Also, holding them long-term would have been a risky move as well.

[300dw123]

He did drop Mantles to $2000! On the next page you could buy a "Limited Edition" Jose Canseco silk cachet for only $15.00

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by 300dw123

He did drop Mantles to $2000! On the next page you could buy a "Limited Edition" Jose Canseco silk cachet for only $15.00

Not a big fan of Mr Mantle but I would have loved one of those Gem Mint Eddie Mathews for $650.

[1963Topps Set]

Interesting... no Tony Bartirome listed!

[Jason19th]

So what do you think 1980’s GEM MINT would translate to for PSA today - I am guessing most would come in at 6

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Jason19th

So what do you think 1980’s GEM MINT would translate to for PSA today - I am guessing most would come in at 6

From the few guys I know that even cared about grades then I would guess 7s with a few 8's.

[GasHouseGang]

I would have taken one of the OC Mantles and been very happy!

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by 1963Topps Set

Interesting... no Tony Bartirome listed!

At that time the Bartirome would have been considered just a common 52 high number for $65, it wasn’t until 5 years ago or so that the con man Cole Bartiromo manipulated the market and made the price of the 52 Topps Bartirome go up.

[samosa4u]

Forget the Mantle, guys! I'm looking at the best card from this set AND it's autographed!

[GasHouseGang]

Thank you for posting that ad. I can see that it was in a different magazine, but they ran something very similar in SCD. I sure wish I had a bigger budget to put towards cards back then!

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

At that time the Bartirome would have been considered just a common 52 high number for $65, it wasn’t until 5 years ago or so that the con man Cole Bartiromo manipulated the market and made the price of the 52 Topps Bartirome go up.

Can someone provide more detail about this? I am curious as to why this card is priced so high compared to other high numbers. What was done to manipulate the market? I completed my 1952 Topps set over 10 years ago, and at that time, I don't remember there being any problem finding this card in VG condition at a reasonable price.

[irv]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Can someone provide more detail about this? I am curious as to why this card is priced so high compared to other high numbers. What was done to manipulate the market? I completed my 1952 Topps set over 10 years ago, and at that time, I don't remember there being any problem finding this card in VG condition at a reasonable price.

Dolarscholar was/is hoarding them based on, allegedly, being of relation?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=211710

[samosa4u]

I agree with Ted. Mr. Mint definitely played a huge role in turning the hobby into what it is today.

[irv]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Not a big fan of Mr Mantle but I would have loved one of those Gem Mint Eddie Mathews for $650.

You and me both!!

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by 300dw123

He did drop Mantles to $2000! On the next page you could buy a "Limited Edition" Jose Canseco silk cachet for only $15.00

OK, I'll bite. Are those your notes and did you pull the trigger?

[300dw123]

Those are my father's notes and he did purchase an "off-grade" Mantle for $1500 from the find that would probably grade a 5-6. He bought twice before they were gone and spent 10K in total. He sold a bunch of them about 5 years later to fund my sister's wedding. About the Gem Mint, I believe they were 8-10s with no "conservation necessary". They were razor-sharp and memorably bold. I still remember holding a Smoky Burgess and thinking that it looked much better than cards we were pulling from vending boxes at the time. If I remember correctly a good bit of Charlie Merkel's set is from Rosen.