Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

[Peter_Spaeth]

Closeups. Sorry I am sure someone could do this better.

[ejharrington]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Closeups. Sorry I am sure someone could do this better.

In PSA's defense, I'm not sure how anyone could detect those alterations. I'm looking at the two cards magnified and still would not be able to detect this one.

[benjulmag]

Originally Posted by ejharrington

In PSA's defense, I'm not sure how anyone could detect those alterations. I'm looking at the two cards magnified and still would not be able to detect this one.

That's the point! They can't, with the current methods they use. So they should stop giving the impression they can. They won't (of course) which is why IMO high grade slabbed vintage cards is the colossal fraud it is.

[perezfan]

Unlike many of the recently exposed (and easily identified) hack-jobs, that one looks REALLY sophisticated. Some meticulous work by that particular Doctor.

Hard to believe it's the same card, but it undoubtedly is.

[Johnny630]

Was print also removed on Hanks Face Peter ? Or is that from the scans ? airbrush?

My question is what is happening at these PSA invitational Events ??? From what I’m told, from a good source, is that you get to discuss things on your cards with the graders !!! WTF......how can this be allowed to happen. It sounds like insider trading to me......another Rarely Mentioned Dark Secret of this Rigged Uber Crooked Industry .......:-(

This Dark Secret Should Also Be Displayed Along with the uncovered Dr. Cards in holders at every major Cards show.

It’s been said that less then one percent of the people know about the scandal and discovered outed cards....... this is one good way to make that percentage increase Drastically

Disgraceful and par for the course

[Goudey77]

This type of restoration work is common in the comic book world and the comic industry’s TPG leader CGC goes into great detail on this subject. I trust that CGC has true professional graders who can detect the most sophisticated work. PSA not so much. Comics are way ahead of the game in this restoration subject.

Safe to say if you get a great comic restoration professional working on cards it’s likely going to pass card TPG’s.

[steve B]

It's hard to tell from the scans, but I think it's probably a very light trim at the top, and maybe removing a bit of debris from the card, which might not even have been stuck on.

The second scan is a bit blurry, but counting the dots between the name and border gives 16 on the before, and 15 maybe 15 1/2 on the after. (Going from the right tip of the N)

If that bit below the name isn't just a few stray fibers and is a scratch, the work done is amazing. Recoloring the Orange wouldn't be all that difficult, doing that and fixing the dot pattern so it doesn't show is.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by steve B

It's hard to tell from the scans, but I think it's probably a very light trim at the top, and maybe removing a bit of debris from the card, which might not even have been stuck on.

The second scan is a bit blurry, but counting the dots between the name and border gives 16 on the before, and 15 maybe 15 1/2 on the after. (Going from the right tip of the N)

If that bit below the name isn't just a few stray fibers and is a scratch, the work done is amazing. Recoloring the Orange wouldn't be all that difficult, doing that and fixing the dot pattern so it doesn't show is.

I believe you're right. That little white portion below the "E" in HENRY had to be some stray paper or debris. I don't think there's any way that the orange/yellow dot pattern could be recreated so perfectly.

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

This type of restoration work is common in the comic book world and the comic industry’s TPG leader CGC goes into great detail on this subject. I trust that CGC has true professional graders who can detect the most sophisticated work. PSA not so much. Comics are way ahead of the game in this restoration subject.

Safe to say if you get a great comic restoration professional working on cards it’s likely going to pass card TPG’s.

You really think CGC catches everything? Lol. Not an industry I know near as well as Sportscards but even I know that guys get stuff through the comic graders just like guys get stuff through the card graders. Hell sometimes it’s the same people.

[1952boyntoncollector]

We need a new thread of Mt. Rushmore of trimmed/altered cards.


The aaron would be there etc

[Johnny630]

How about a Mt Rushmore of the most crooked dealers and well known card doctors.