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Adding to the complexity of the issue in this case is the value of the card. I mean, if the slab was merely a GAI 1 or 2 and the buyer broke it before return of the card I doubt there'd be nearly as much discussion. So as I somewhat t.i.c. suggested earlier in the thread, in the future sell the slab, not the card. |
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However there are collectibles to this day that are in GAI slabs in auctions that sell for thousands of dollars such as wax packs etc. XYZ company doesnt have any The 'mystery' is now gone from this collectible because the slab is gone. People pay more for mysteries/gamble Example- People pay 40 dollars for a slot in a set break when average value of cards will be 3 dollars. Its the mystery! Example Xmas packs- Its the mystery! Meeting someone online whos video is always broken on computer or phone which prevents a live view of the person and all you have to rely on are pictures which could be feasible excuse in 1994 but not in 2019. Its the mystery (not from prior experience) Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 11-11-2019 at 08:22 AM. |
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However the benefit of PSA is you can try to get your money back from them if if the card is altered, as everyone is aware from me, no lawsuits yet that I know of so apparently buyers are satisfied. As for GAI, its buyer beware and buyer is getting it for the mystery and can sell it later on as long as its in the same holder with the extra mystery value....crack it out, you lose the mystery.... So if someone says 'NO returns on graded cards' I can crack it out of a PSA case and say the card is altered so i want my money back because why would i pay 15k etc.... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 11-11-2019 at 11:00 AM. |
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Early GAI generally speaking is still considered pretty reliable.
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GAI crack out
At one time, GAI had many good cards in holders, much less accurately at higher priced cards or higher tiers. A buyer can initialize a return if the seller uses "Free Returns" power seller terms so he gets an e bay invoice credit monthly if he or she qualifies for Top Rated.
If the seller does not authorize this status, he still has to take card or any item back no matter what within 30 days, so if the buyer cracked out of any slab, either lower tier holders such as CSA or PRO, it ALTERS the original sold product and is not in original sold condition. Even if PSA deemed it altered or non authentic. EVERY GRADING SERVICE including SGC, PSA, GAI, BVG etc offers their professional opinion on grades and based upon our perceptions as to whom we choose to pay to slab numerically...that changes nothing, items are supposed to be returned as shipped, raw or graded....GAI did grade professionally until two years before their demise. If an item is not returned as received, e bay and paypal offers seller protection but you need to file a Federal IC3 fraud report, local police report or professional appraisal to substantiate your claim. Hope this was not too long.... Last edited by painthistorian; 11-11-2019 at 11:42 AM. |
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All part of the mystery value but it does add value to a card because of the 'maybe' factor A XYZ holder has zero 'maybe mystery' factor and is just a hard plastic sleeve. I think we can agree that if you get a card in a hard plastic sleeve and return it in a soft plastic sleeve, its wrong but nobody really is going to complain a XYZ holder is a hard plastic sleeve. A GAI holder is more than that because of the mystery and past sales. Maybe 20 years from now GAI will just be a plastic sleeve but its not there yet. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 11-11-2019 at 11:57 AM. |
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Exactly - like buying a lottery ticket with a $7000 potential prize on the face, and then trying to return it because you only won $100. |
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I actually really like this thread just for the psychological aspect it presents. I have asked my non-card collector friends what their opinion is. Even among my friends the choice between buyer and seller is at 50/50. One friend said that buying an appraised card from a defunct company that has an iffy integrity should signal to the seller it will be reappraised. The card should have been regraded by the seller or taken out of the holder. She added, no opinion is always better than a bad opinion.
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I do agree that no opinion is better than a bad opinion (as per the thousands of erroneous numerical grades exposed on Blowout). Last edited by perezfan; 11-15-2019 at 12:14 PM. |
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Yes exactly, wow someone understood my point exactly
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