Ebay seller returned cracked out slab

[Peter_Spaeth]

The OP said he "accidentally" accepted the return and that he did NOT know at the time the card was no longer in the GAI slab, he only learned that later and that ebay then forced him to accept the return he already had agreed to.

Here are his exact words.
"I accidentally hit accepting return but didn't know at the time the card was cracked out.

The buyer said before it was sent to me on ebay it was no longer in the slab and Ebay said I still had to accept the return."



So how was it an accident?

[pokerplyr80]

Looks like I missed something before writing a comment. Never mind.

[Peter_Spaeth]

At this point, here is how I see all this.

1. The buyer probably forfeited his right to a return when he cracked out the card. I can see the counterarguments, but I would rule against the buyer on this point-- somewhat reluctantly.

2. Ebay should not force the seller to accept the return.

3. The seller's posts have not been a model of clarity, and to me it's not a good look when he doesn't answer pertinent and repeated questions.

4. The seller should identify the buyer.

5. I suspect the seller would have resold the GAI card without disclosure of the PSA review, and if true that bothers me.

6. The whole thing is really a no-win situation for the hobby.

[pokerplyr80]

I really don't feel like reading this whole thread to find the answer. But did the OP actually say the buyer told him the card was cracked out while requesting a return? If so my opinion of both parties is completely different.

The buyer did nothing wrong, and the seller made a stupid mistake accepting the return. It happens. I have no idea why this thread was created.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I really don't feel like reading this whole thread to find the answer. But did the OP actually say the buyer told him the card was cracked out while requesting a return? If so my opinion of both parties is completely different.

The buyer did nothing wrong, and the seller made a stupid mistake accepting the return. It happens. I have no idea why this thread was created.

It's in the first post. The seller says he did not know it was cracked out when he "accidentally" accepted the return.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's in the first post. The seller says he did not know it was cracked out when he "accidentally" accepted the return.

If he didn't know the card was cracked out, why would it be an accident to accept the return?

[perezfan]

Seller approved the return before realizing the card had been cracked from its slab. Thus, the "accidental" acceptance of return.

Had he known the card had been cracked out, he presumably would not have authorized the return.

Edit... We were writing at same time. Yes, you've now got it correct, Jesse.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Seller approved the return before realizing the card had been cracked from its slab. Thus, the "accidental" acceptance of return.

I realize it's just being pedantic but, to me, "accidental" would be clicking a button you didn't mean to click or your cat walking across the keyboard or something. Clicking "OK" on the return intentionally is not accidental.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's in the first post. The seller says he did not know it was cracked out when he "accidentally" accepted the return.

I did read that, I guess I misread a post towards the end. So by "accidentally" the OP probably meant he accepted the return not knowing it was cracked out.

[bigfanNY]

Lots of folks here sell lots more cards on ebay and BST than me I have about 700 feedback on ebay. But the couple times folks have asked for refunds the first thing I ask is why? If I click the button saying I will accept the refund without contacting the buyer why would I expect ebay to side with me?
I was wrong in my earlier post when I said seller said he knew before he clicked ok to return. I re read the post and he dose say it was after he accepted return but before buyer mailed it back.
Maybe the buyer would have been ok with NO or maybe they could have reached a settlement maybe Ebay or PayPal would have sided with him.....anyway LOTS OF MAYBES..
That we will never know answer to because seller said send it back. And buyer did. So end of Transaction.