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Is the company that packaged that hypothetical watch still in business?
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Sure but most watch manufacturers provide a warranty only on watches sold through authorized dealers. This watch is not bought from an authorized dealer.
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1. Just the watch (e.g. a raw card) 2. The watch, but you paid a 50% premium because it came in an expensive hand carved wooden box that you destroyed to pieces (e.g., the slab)? Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
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I think it’s nuts we still don’t know who the seller is?
Peter/Mark and anyone else supporting the buyer here, I don’t want to get into it (we disagree), but regardless of who you think is right and wrong, would you feel comfortable selling any card to the buyer? I wouldn’t! I think we would all be better off knowing who is out there on eBay cracking cards out, submitting them, and then returning them if they don’t fish their wish. Edited: substituted “buyer” for “seller” twice Last edited by Rhotchkiss; 11-10-2019 at 01:28 PM. |
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1. Foist it on a buyer at a near mint price, or 2. Would I prefer to know about the alterations, and deal with that event, knowing I would be selling it for thousands less. I would like to say I would do the latter, but I have to admit, I might be able to rationalize the former, depending how much the extra money meant to me at the time. If the former then no, because this buyer verifies authenticity of his purchases and it would be unlikely I could sneak a doctored card past him. If the latter, then yes, because the buyer and I would both want to know the truth about the card, and him spending his own money to have PSA identify the doctoring would actually be helping me in learning the truth. Having said that, as has been pointed out, there is a lot we don't know, and we have only heard one side of the story. I also wonder what form the PSA opinion is in, since they apparently did not slab the card. I see both sides of this issue. It is an unfortunate situation and an innocent person is going to be hurt, since I assume the card doctor got away with his ill-gotten gain a decade ago. |
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Sorry, I just edited my earlier post- I meant to say we should know identity of the buyer and I meant to ask would you want to sell a slabbed card to the buyer (if the GAI card in this case).
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Once it was cracked out, any right to return it should be removed. The card could have been altered/enhanced after the cracking-out, or easily damaged as a result of the crack-out.
I can see the other side of this, and it makes for a great discussion. But to me, a return is only warranted if the seller receives his item back in same condition as it was sold. And based on what we've seen time and time again, PSA's "expert opinion" offers no more credence than any other self-appointed authority. Last edited by perezfan; 11-10-2019 at 01:28 PM. |
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