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Old 11-10-2019, 11:56 AM
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In baseball, Ken Griffey Jr. still has the affection of millions of fans. He is seen as the “clean” hero of the ‘90s.
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He had a few hits...
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America's most beloved living sports legend......

Well id say just about everyone in America knows who Michael Jordan is & that he is a legend.

But if we are leaving him off....

Id go with wane gretzky, by far the best hockey player of all time, his records will never be broken. And even though hockey isnt as popular as the rest of the sports id think most Americans know who he is and that hes the gratest all time
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I agree with Gretzky.
A true icon by definition as the representative symbol of his sport...
not many listed in this thread share his lofty status.
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Gretzky is the all time leading goal scorer. If Gretzky had never scored a goal, he would still (unless Jagr has recently changed this) be the all time leading point scorer. It's truly unfathomable.
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Can't deny Gretzky's unbelievable impact in his sport, but hockey is such a 4th tier sport in America. Really don't see him being that iconic a national figure.

If you showed his picture to 1000 Americans how many would even know who he was?
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Gretzky is Canada’s most beloved maybe, but we need an American here. I guess I would vote for Joe Montana or John Madden ( yes, I have a Bay Area bias). Maybe Jack Nicklaus too.
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Gretzky is Canada’s most beloved maybe, but we need an American here. I guess I would vote for Joe Montana or John Madden ( yes, I have a Bay Area bias). Maybe Jack Nicklaus too.
Has Canada seceded from North America? If so, when?

Personally I'm 25% Canadian, but 100% American.
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Can't deny Gretzky's unbelievable impact in his sport, but hockey is such a 4th tier sport in America. Really don't see him being that iconic a national figure.

If you showed his picture to 1000 Americans how many would even know who he was?
Gretzky, along with Jordan, Ruth and Ali are the quintessential representatives of the best of the best for their respective sport.
There are literally only a few individuals in the history of sport, dead OR alive, that have reached Gretzky's level of supremacy.
Football doesn't even have as iconic an individual.
You mentioned Shaq?? He doesn't even register as one of the best basketball players, never mind an icon of the sport.
And yes, many Americans know the name Wayne Gretzky, let's not be daft.
The average American would recognize his visage over someone like Pele... without question.
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:02 AM
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I guess that depends on your definition of beloved. Beloved to me means they transcend sports and everyone generally likes them and has a feel for who they are as a person. I'm not really sure what kind of opinions the average person has on Gretzky given that he's never been all that public of a person. Same goes for a lot of the suggestions. That's why I think Shaq is a good choice. He has a public persona that people relate to.
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Gretzky, along with Jordan, Ruth and Ali are the quintessential representatives of the best of the best for their respective sport.
There are literally only a few individuals in the history of sport, dead OR alive, that have reached Gretzky's level of supremacy.
Football doesn't even have as iconic an individual.
You mentioned Shaq?? He doesn't even register as one of the best basketball players, never mind an icon of the sport.
And yes, many Americans know the name Wayne Gretzky, let's not be daft.
The average American would recognize his visage over someone like Pele... without question.
Woods certainly had the potential to reach that level of supremacy, but as it turned out he wound up still short of Nicklaus, and despite his Masters' win it seems relatively unlikely he has enough left to get there.

As for football, I think Brady will end up as a near-consensus GOAT, although interestingly USA Today just recently ranked him 2nd, behind Jerry Rice.
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Bobby Hull
Hank Aaron & Willie Mays
Gale Sayers ( his health is deteriorating)
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I vote Aaron and Mays. Brady is on his way. Nicklaus is not as famous as you might think. When you say his name, most people think you are talking about the guy from The Shining.

I don't see how y'all can talk about Shaq and Barkley and leave out Kenny "The Jet" Smith

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In baseball, Ken Griffey Jr. still has the affection of millions of fans. He is seen as the “clean” hero of the ‘90s.
True. Jeter is in the same category and not far behind Jr.
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