Ebay seller returned cracked out slab

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Since the issue is that the buyer broke the holder and wasn't then able to return the card the same way it was received (and I agree, your point of view has a LOT of validity), I'm really hoping you, or someone, will answer this question:

Suppose the buyer had removed the card for inspection in such a way that the holder was undamaged. He discovers the card is doctored. Would it be OK for him to put the now known doctored card back into the original GAI 7 holder and return to the seller in the identical condition it was received?

If it were possible to remove a card from a holder and then replace it and have there be absolutely zero discernible evidence that the card was ever removed... how would anyone know?

Tree falls in the forest and there’s no one there to hear it fall...did it fall?

Bounty prospector removes 33 Goudey gehrig from gai holder...Gets opinion from PSA who deems it to be authentic and altered...And is able to return to its original holder with no evidence he did it? Did he remove it at all?

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

If it were possible to remove a card from a holder and then replace it and have there be absolutely zero discernible evidence that the card was ever removed... how would anyone know?

Tree falls in the forest and there’s no one there to hear it fall...did it fall?

Bounty prospector removes 33 Goudey gehrig from gai holder...Gets opinion from PSA who deems it to be authentic and altered...And is able to return to its original holder with no evidence he did it? Did he remove it at all?

So you'd be fine with that?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Mark17

So you'd be fine with that?

How would u know?

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

How would u know?

In a conversation where you have not been shy about voicing very strong opinions, suddenly you become evasive.

Is someone else willing to answer my question above?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Mark17

In a conversation where you have not been shy about voicing very strong opinions, suddenly you become evasive.

Is someone else willing to answer my question above?

If while at work...someone hits my bumper while parking yet leaves no evidence on my car?

How can I be mad?

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

If while at work...someone hits my bumper while parking yet leaves no evidence on my car?

How can I be mad?

Okay, so you are leaving me to decrypt your answer. Let me know if my interpretation is incorrect. I believe you are saying:

If the buyer could put the card back in the original holder and return the card/holder in the same condition as received, the seller will have been made whole, everything's fine, and nobody's the wiser. Is that about right?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Okay, so you are leaving me to decrypt your answer. Let me know if my interpretation is incorrect. I believe you are saying:

If the buyer could put the card back in the original holder and return the card/holder in the same condition as received, the seller will have been made whole, everything's fine, and nobody's the wiser. Is that about right?

if the scenario you describe was the reality in this situation...would this thread have been started?

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Okay, so you are leaving me to decrypt your answer. Let me know if my interpretation is incorrect. I believe you are saying:

If the buyer could put the card back in the original holder and return the card/holder in the same condition as received, the seller will have been made whole, everything's fine, and nobody's the wiser. Is that about right?

I think many of the posts in this thread have been in agreement with this since many have said the buyer could have submitted to PSA without cracking the card out to start with. If that had been done and PSA had been unwilling to grade it, then I don't think anyone would have felt the buyer did not deserve a refund. Unfortunately, that's not what happened which has led to the 2 different points of view that have been expressed - "you break it you bought it" or "card is fake so refund is deserved no matter what"