Ebay seller returned cracked out slab

[jhs5120]

Try PayPal. I have had success there when eBay was a dead end. Tell PayPal that the buyer broke the item and returned the pieces. Don't explain the whole grading thing, or GAI or PSA. The buyer broke the item, and literally returned the broken plastic pieces.

When you emailed the buyer, he admitted to breaking the item (reference the email to him saying he "cracked" the slab) and try to take that approach.

Best of luck.

[toolifedave]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

Try PayPal. I have had success there when eBay was a dead end. Tell PayPal that the buyer broke the item and returned the pieces. Don't explain the whole grading thing, or GAI or PSA. The buyer broke the item, and literally returned the broken plastic pieces.

When you emailed the buyer, he admitted to breaking the item (reference the email to him saying he"crack" the slab) and try to take that approach.

Best of luck.

Paypal will NOT open a claim if ebay had one. Thank you for the idea
and no slab or plastic pieces were returned. Just a card in PSA open plastic sleve.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by toolifedave

Paypal will NOT open a claim if ebay had one. Thank you for the idea
and no slab or plastic pieces were returned. Just a card in PSA open plastic sleve.

He received the card, gave it to PSA, got the card back from PSA, and retuned it within one week after buying it from you?

[samosa4u]

How could eBay side with the buyer? He damaged the effing item! This makes no sense to me! Please post this idiot's username so I can block him.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Eric72

He received the card, gave it to PSA, got the card back from PSA, and retuned it within one week after buying it from you?

I was thinking the same thing.

[wondo]

Dave,

Is the card the 1933 Goudey Gehrig GAI that sold last month? The dollar amount would explain the quick PSA turn around. Not many other high $$$ GAI cards been sold recently (a Ruth, but that one sold by same seller got positiive feedback).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY...p2047675.l2557

[toolifedave]

Originally Posted by wondo

Dave,

Is the card the 1933 Goudey Gehrig GAI that sold last month? The dollar amount would explain the quick PSA turn around. Not many other high $$$ GAI cards been sold recently (a Ruth, but that one sold by same seller got positiive feedback).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY...p2047675.l2557

yes

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

I was thinking the same thing.

Me too. I thought PSAs turnaround times were way long and to have this buyer get the card back from them within a week with an opinion of Authentic sounds pretty fishy to me. Sounds like he switched the card and returned a different card and kept the high dollar one.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

Me too. I thought PSAs turnaround times were way long and to have this buyer get the card back from them within a week with an opinion of Authentic sounds pretty fishy to me. Sounds like he switched the card and returned a different card and kept the high dollar one.

Cards worth this much have to be submitted at a high dollar, quick turnaround level. Plus he returned the card with the PSA rejection sticker, no?

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Cards worth this much have to be submitted at a high dollar, quick turnaround level. Plus he returned the card with the PSA rejection sticker, no?

But getting it back inside a week? That's still pretty quick no?

If he included a PSA rejection sticker then I missed that above.

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Cards worth this much have to be submitted at a high dollar, quick turnaround level. Plus he returned the card with the PSA rejection sticker, no?

Buyer could have had a sticker from a previous submission of same card and swapped the card out... I guess OP can check that with PSA though..

[111gecko]

You crack it, you own it..period. This is BS.

[Goudey77]

Originally Posted by 111gecko

You crack it, you own it..period. This is BS.

Bottom line. I couldn’t have said it better myself.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by 111gecko

You crack it, you own it..period. This is BS.

^^THIS^^ times 1000.

I am saddened by all the people making excuses for the buyer. These things usually only happen when the buyer is known and is in the "IN" group of collectors. So who is the well respected honest buyer several are sticking up for?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by 111gecko

You crack it, you own it..period. This is BS.

i agree. Otherwise basically a buyer is saying he will only buy it if the card will sell more for what he bought for it. no free lunch

[toolifedave]

Originally Posted by Eric72

He received the card, gave it to PSA, got the card back from PSA, and retuned it within one week after buying it from you?

Sent back to me unslabbed by PSA since they said the card was altered and I guess the buyer didn't want it slabbed authentic

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by toolifedave

Sent back to me unslabbed by PSA since they said the card was altered and I guess the buyer didn't want it slabbed authentic

PSA sent the card back to you?

[toolifedave]

Originally Posted by Eric72

PSA sent the card back to you?

Buyer had PSA grade the card, and returned to me unslabbed since PSA didn't give a number grade as buyer wanted.

[tlhss]

Could you post the original description of the card you used in your sales ad on eBay?

[Fred]

You're getting totally screwed over by fleabay.

If the card was removed from a slab, then it really shouldn't matter whose slab it was, the fact it was removed pretty much can place doubt on the card being the same card.

Totally getting screwed. It would be nice to see someone sue fleabay and win, just to set a precedence and show fleabay that they can be held accountable for their poor judgement calls.

[LACardsGuy]

this is a not as described return or just a return enforced because of your return policy? if the latter, that's why i blanket stopped taking returns. there is NO upside for seller.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by toolifedave

Sent back to me unslabbed by PSA since they said the card was altered and I guess the buyer didn't want it slabbed authentic

Did PSA indicate what alteration was done? Sorry if you’ve already posted this info and I missed it.

[toolifedave]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Did PSA indicate what alteration was done? Sorry if you’ve already posted this info and I missed it.

No

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Eric72

He received the card, gave it to PSA, got the card back from PSA, and retuned it within one week after buying it from you?

Yeah, that timeline makes absolutely no sense at all.

I'm thinking it's a smooth swap of an auth card for a graded one and PSA wasn't involved at all.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by steve B

Yeah, that timeline makes absolutely no sense at all.

I'm thinking it's a smooth swap of an auth card for a graded one and PSA wasn't involved at all.

I would assume the OP would know if he got back a different card than he sold? He hasn't complained about that, only the removal from the slab.