Ebay seller returned cracked out slab

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Ebay sucks. This is totally not right. You did nothing wrong and are going to wind up taking it on the chin due to Ebay's "The buyer is always right" philosophy.

Just send it in to PSA with Bobby, it will pass eventually. PSA is GAI anyway...

[Exhibitman]

I don't understand this:

"I accidentally hit accepting return but didn't know at the time the card was cracked out."

How was it an 'accident' to accept the return if you did not know the card had been cracked out?

[nsaddict]

What was the time factor from sell date to return date? Imagine if everyone started doing this. The buyer could never lose only gain. Wtf?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Assuming you have the same card back and can sell it again, was the GAI slab really adding much value to it anyhow?

[bigfanNY]

But if the cards value was affected by the number grade say a GAI 8 and is now PSA authentic then there is a big hit to cards value. And I understand if buyer did not try and cross over then card would not have lost value. But if this was a card altered by moser and sold by Brett originally and passed on a few times to an owner who did not know the pedigree. Then cracked for better grade and returned Altered, would anybody be siding with OP?

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

But if the cards value was affected by the number grade say a GAI 8 and is now PSA authentic then there is a big hit to cards value. And I understand if buyer did not try and cross over then card would not have lost value. But if this was a card altered by moser and sold by Brett originally and passed on a few times to an owner who did not know the pedigree. Then cracked for better grade and returned Altered, would anybody be siding with OP?

If OP did not know card was altered (and no evidence of that is present) then yes no reason NOT to side with him...

If of course he did know, well then that's a different story...

[toolifedave]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Assuming you have the same card back and can sell it again, was the GAI slab really adding much value to it anyhow?

Great question yes since they offered a number grade.

[Sean]

Double post

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Assuming you have the same card back and can sell it again

The OP sold an altered card. Now, assuming he got the same card back, he hasn't lost anything. The GAI holder was incorrect, the card should not have gotten a numeric grade.

It sounds like the OP bought a card that turned out to be altered, and now he wanted to pass the loss on to the next buyer.

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by Sean

The OP sold an altered card. Now, assuming he got the same card back, he hasn't lost anything. The GAI holder was incorrect, the card should not have gotten a numeric grade.

It sounds like the OP bought a card that turned out to be altered, and now he wanted to pass the loss in to the next buyer.

The buyer returned the card cracked out of the previous holder

[Sean]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

The buyer returned the card cracked out of the previous holder

A GAI holder that gave a numeric grade to an altered card.

[toolifedave]

Originally Posted by nsaddict

What was the time factor from sell date to return date? Imagine if everyone started doing this. The buyer could never lose only gain. Wtf?

About 1 week

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by nsaddict

What was the time factor from sell date to return date? Imagine if everyone started doing this. The buyer could never lose only gain. Wtf?

Originally Posted by toolifedave

About 1 week

Ben,

The seller was asked specifically how long this all took to happen and he said it was one week. Not three weeks.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

Ben,

The seller was asked specifically how long this all took to happen and he said it was one week. Not three weeks.

Sorry missed that one. Still could easily be done with overnight shipping and about a week could easily be 10 days.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Sorry missed that one. Still could easily be done with overnight shipping and about a week could easily be 10 days.

I suppose that could be true. I just don't feel it is all. I think something fishy is going one with this one. I still don't know what the right thing to do is, accept the return or fight it?

[toolifedave]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

Ben,

The seller was asked specifically how long this all took to happen and he said it was one week. Not three weeks.

Let me be clear a card was sent to PSA by buyer and it took a reasonable period of time
to return to me and may have been 1-2,-weeks. I believe I was advised appx a week after buyer got the card he wanted to return since he claimed PSA advised the card altered.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by toolifedave

Let me be clear a card was sent to PSA by buyer and it took a reasonable period of time
to return to me and may have been 1-2,-weeks. I believe I was advised appx a week after buyer got the card he wanted to return since he claimed PSA advised the card altered.

Would you kindly show a picture of the card and what it was sent back to you in? There is something from PSA included, yes?

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by toolifedave

Let me be clear a card was sent to PSA by buyer and it took a reasonable period of time
to return to me and may have been 1-2,-weeks. I believe I was advised appx a week after buyer got the card he wanted to return since he claimed PSA advised the card altered.

"...a card..."

You mean, the card - the same one you sold the buyer - that was subsequently returned to you?

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by toolifedave

Let me be clear a card was sent to PSA by buyer and it took a reasonable period of time
to return to me and may have been 1-2,-weeks. I believe I was advised appx a week after buyer got the card he wanted to return since he claimed PSA advised the card altered.

Thank you for clarifying Dave. Are you sure you received the same card back when the buyer returned it? Don't suppose you have before and after images do you?

[toolifedave]

He asked for a return and later after I accepted the return advises
it was cracked out. Ebay high value team advised it didn’t
matter and they would stand by buyers for ebay money back policy.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by toolifedave

He asked for a return and later after I accepted the return advises
it was cracked out. Ebay high value team advised it didn’t
matter and they would stand by buyers for ebay money back policy.

Well that f**king sucks.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Just send it in to PSA with Bobby, it will pass eventually. PSA is GAI anyway...

You really are truly miserable and probably need to find a new hobby. One that makes you happier.

[bigfanNY]

Can the op clarify one thing. He stated that it was in a GAI slab ..What was the grade? My point would be if it had a number grade and PSA said it was altered then I think he should take the return. Unfortunately we live in a new world where cards in slabs with number grades are getting proved altered ALL THE TIME. And I am not a lawyer but it would be very difficult to convince a judge and or jury that it was fraud on buyer when the fact is you sold an altered card on ebay. And dont we want ebay to stand up for us when we buy altered cards on ebay?

[toolifedave]

No problem accepting same card in same slab but it was removed from slab.

You can keep card in slab for a crossover.

Reason for return was doesn’t seem authentic but it was
authentic.