Anyone Else Collecting a 1987 Topps Autographed Set?

[mantleman]

Hi everyone,

If anyone is interested in a Mattingly AS, I have one for sale in BST. Sharp card and auto that was acquired 2 years ago TTM to Marlins Spring Spring Training.

Also, a nice Canseco (BAS)

Andy

[Topps206]

I had a return from Chili Davis within the past month or two.

425/792

[dgo71]

Originally Posted by Topps206

I had a return from Chili Davis within the past month or two.

425/792

Those recent returns from Chili all appear to be ghost signed.

[mantleman]

I recently got two Chili Davis back in the mail and they were so horrible I threw them out. Cards were badly damaged and autos were atrocious.


Andy

[Topps206]

How do people know the Chili Davis returns aren't legitimate?

Also, I'm seeing recent returns for George Brett recently. Here's somebody who stopped doing shows, doesn't seem overly nice about signings. Sometimes Atommic Sports has a signing with him and it's pricy.

What are the chances his returns are authentic?

[dgo71]

Originally Posted by Topps206

How do people know the Chili Davis returns aren't legitimate?

Also, I'm seeing recent returns for George Brett recently. Here's somebody who stopped doing shows, doesn't seem overly nice about signings. Sometimes Atommic Sports has a signing with him and it's pricy.

What are the chances his returns are authentic?

With Chili, it's basically the same way people determine if a Mickey Mantle or Jackie Robinson autograph his legitimate. The autographs people were receiving looked nothing like what his autograph is known to look like. Couple that with the fact that he is not a very accommodating signer when you ask him in person and it makes complete sense for him to employ a ghost signer.

I saw a couple returns on Brett myself and I am extremely skeptical. He is still doing signings with Tom Orr as well and his pricing starts at $110 for cards. As you mentioned, he's a pretty tough signer, and none of the alleged successes I saw had posted a picture of the item they received. I guess I could be wrong but for now I don't believe for a second that Brett is legitimately signing his mail.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by Topps206

How do people know the Chili Davis returns aren't legitimate?

Also, I'm seeing recent returns for George Brett recently. Here's somebody who stopped doing shows, doesn't seem overly nice about signings. Sometimes Atommic Sports has a signing with him and it's pricy.

What are the chances his returns are authentic?

I believe they got it backwards and many of the returns from 2016-2018 where ghost signed and the recent 2019 and later returns were authentic. If you can post a pic I can tell you which batch it’s from. It’s pretty easy to tell. If the return was c/o of the ball club I’d bet it’s good. I think a family is the ghost signer.


Edit to add a reference:

Top row is authentic. Bottom row is ghost signed.

[dgo71]

FWIW, the returns I saw over the last month or so all looked like the bottom row, regardless of where they were sent. I do remember at least one request that specifically noted it was sent c/o the Mets with the ghost signed signature. I don't recall however if it was returned during the season or after he'd returned home in October.