Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

[samosa4u]

Regarding the PSA 9 Joe Namath rookie, corndog wrote this:

Due to the blurring of the first image, I cannot confirm anything other than it being the same card as the PSA 9.

I can't see any alterations either. It's quite possible this card was just cracked out and resubmitted. Remember, big dealers tend to get higher grades compared to the average Joe.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Regarding the PSA 9 Joe Namath rookie, corndog wrote this:

Due to the blurring of the first image, I cannot confirm anything other than it being the same card as the PSA 9.

I can't see any alterations either. It's quite possible this card was just cracked out and resubmitted. Remember, big dealers tend to get higher grades compared to the average Joe.

That was a excellent last point. What did he pay for that high grade $3,000 $5,000 did he get the up charge call from Newport Beach ?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Regarding the PSA 9 Joe Namath rookie, corndog wrote this:

Due to the blurring of the first image, I cannot confirm anything other than it being the same card as the PSA 9.

I can't see any alterations either. It's quite possible this card was just cracked out and resubmitted. Remember, big dealers tend to get higher grades compared to the average Joe.

You can’t expect the Chaos of the board to be able read can you? It’s like when they see that wet spot on the floor of the supermarket and some woman on the ground nearby holding her head, their brains just shut off and all they can think of is dollar signs.

[Peter_Spaeth]

With a two grade bump and other circumstances, I would suspect some very subtle and sophisticated corner work was done, but obviously we don't have any proof of that so there's no basis to draw any supportable conclusions.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

With a two grade bump and other circumstances, I would suspect some very subtle and sophisticated corner work was done, but obviously we don't have any proof of that so there's no basis to draw any supportable conclusions.

What other circumstances? That it was regraded by PSA?

[Leon]

There are 1000s if not 10s of thousands of messed up (fraudulently altered) cards due to the scammers and the TPG's incompetency. That it was regraded is little solace.

Originally Posted by calvindog

What other circumstances? That it was regraded by PSA?

[Johnny630]

Looks like some sophisticated work was done on that bottom left corner to get it to lay down like that. Feel horrible for the original owner in the 7 holder....hope he doesn’t see this :-(

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Looks like some sophisticated work was done on that bottom left corner to get it to lay down like that. Feel horrible for the original owner in the 7 holder....hope he doesn’t see this :-(

How do you feel for the guy who bought the 9 (assuming it was altered by the Skerbes in some way)?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Looks like some sophisticated work was done on that bottom left corner to get it to lay down like that. Feel horrible for the original owner in the 7 holder....hope he doesn’t see this :-(

People disagree with that on this one whether this card was altered or not.

However, nobody really cares because after all who is going to sue when cards at issue are 10k or less like board members have said.

Its never going to involve 200k matters for example as there apparently was never trimming job on that only on cards 10k or less. , who the heck would sue over a 200k issue anyway..not worth their time or when it can get worked out is always a better alternative to a lawsuit so im sure PSA or AH would fork over 200k even if they dispute whether a card is altered, even a letter may due to trick to get them to pay

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Leon

There are 1000s if not 10s of thousands of messed up (fraudulently altered) cards due to the scammers and the TPG's incompetency. That it was regraded is little solace.

Yes that was my point.