Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

What's interesting is the time line of some of those cards. Some cards were purchased in 2007 and didn't reappear as altered until 2016 or 2017. I suppose it's an issue of too many cards to doctor with too little time.

Or they purposely waited that long, so people would forget the original sale. You have to be awfully discrete when you fraudulently sell an altered card for $84,000.00, under the premise of being NRMT.

I wonder if anyone has actually tallied up the "dollar profits" from these ill-gotten gains? And what would that total number be, derived from the thousands of number-graded cards that we've seen? (keeping in mind that only a small percentage can be accessed/researched using the internet)

Whatever that number is, it absolutely dwarfs the extent of crimes committed by Mastro & Co.

[Peter_Spaeth]

S_C's turn.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=5684

[ullmandds]

WOW...that Gehrig provided some return!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

WOW...that Gehrig provided some return!

At this point the history of the card over the last 18 years is unknown, so the return may not have accrued to one person.

[samosa4u]

I hope someone will contact SGC about this!

[Throttlesteer]

It takes some giant "berries" to doctor some of these already high-end cards. I cant imagine taking a risk on a PSA 8 Gehrig.

[Johnny630]

That card was a ugly PSA 8 the first time.
For this card to be trimmed this badly and to get a 9 with SGC that looks bad.....real bad.
Would like to know two things;
Whom submitted the card for grading to SGC?
Will SGC honor their guarantee, buy the card back reholder it properly in a A.

[ullmandds]

that doctor sure "centered" that gehrig right up!!!

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

That card was a ugly PSA 8 the first time.
For this card to be trimmed this badly and to get a 9 with SGC that looks bad.....real bad.
Would like to know two things;
Whom submitted the card for grading to SGC?
Will SGC honor their guarantee, buy the card back reholder it properly in a A.

Restitution for that Gehrig Card alone might bankrupt SGC. I wonder what (if anything) they’ll do if legal recourse is pursued? And who makes this enormous claim? The consignor? The “winning” bidder? Heritage? The person who sold it to the consignor?

What a mess. Just once it would be nice to hear from a major auction house, with specific action that was actually taken to resolve one of these issues. The silence is becoming deafening, and is sucking the trust right out of the hobby.

[iwantitiwinit]

[QUOTE=Throttlesteer;1926894]It takes some giant "berries" to doctor some of these already high-end cards. I cant imagine taking a risk on a PSA 8 Gehrig.[/QUOT

What if they are not taking a chance? What if somehow the submitter knows ahead of time the grade that will be assigned by a specific grader or graders by one of the tpg's. Hmmmm.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

I hope someone will contact SGC about this!

Perhaps one of Heritage's friends will contact them so they can do nothing about it.