Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

[Johnny630]

How long till the collapse of this so called Market ?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

How long till the collapse of this so called Market ?

This one has to wait its turn. We are still waiting for the big fall from the Mastro fiasco. At least he was honest and straight up said most high end cards are altered.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

This one has to wait its turn. We are still waiting for the big fall from the Mastro fiasco. At least he was honest and straight up said most high end cards are altered.

Funny, I must have missed those disclosures in his catalogues.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Funny, I must have missed those disclosures in his catalogues.

I believe he waited till after getting caught before he told that to the general public.

[Johnny630]

To me this whole debacle is way worse then Mastro.

[Goudey77]

Core problem starts with TPG's. The solution can be dealt with TPG's.
As long as we continue feeding the TPG gravy train all sorts of corruption will follow. It's human nature and there is no solution for that.

TPG's can start incorporating technology into grading and perhaps this leads to better results.

Chipping away at trimmers, retail outlets and AH's where these are sold is ass backwards if you want to change the landscape.

[steve B]

The bad guys were there long before TPG. But the money in general was less, so the more skilled applied their skills elsewhere, either faking stuff or doing legitimate work.

I think the ship sailed so long ago that getting the degree of money out of things that would run off the skilled fakers won't happen. (And for many reasons shouldn't happen anyway)

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

Core problem starts with TPG's. The solution can be dealt with TPG's.
As long as we continue feeding the TPG gravy train all sorts of corruption will follow. It's human nature and there is no solution for that.

TPG's can start incorporating technology into grading and perhaps this leads to better results.

Chipping away at trimmers, retail outlets and AH's where these are sold is ass backwards if you want to change the landscape.

The core problem is human greed and lack of morals and ethics.