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Old 10-17-2019, 08:52 AM
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What if the first sale at 5-15% more was shill bid well above where it should have been to set a floor and then the second sale at that slightly lower level was a real buyer who now got a 'bargain'......
this is the likely scenario for the past 10-15 years with most auctions...imo...to the point where some hammer prices appear to be bargains when they've been artificially inflated in the first place.
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Old 10-17-2019, 09:56 PM
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Modern seems to be doing fine. At least on the high end. 200k for a Jeter card tonight.
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Modern seems to be doing fine. At least on the high end. 200k for a Jeter card tonight.
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Old 10-17-2019, 10:15 PM
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That's the one. I remember a debate over which was more valuable, 93 sp in a 10 or that one. I guess that debate is settled.
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Do the auction results of two bidders with snipes more than $50000 above the third bidder prove anything about the actual market value of the card? I would seriously question that conclusion.
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Do the auction results of two bidders with snipes more than $50000 above the third bidder prove anything about the actual market value of the card? I would seriously question that conclusion.
I show 6 unique bidders over $100k. And this is a pop 2 modern card in a 10, with a total pop of around 30. A modern white whale. I would argue plenty was proven about the market value of the card.
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I show 6 unique bidders over $100k. And this is a pop 2 modern card in a 10, with a total pop of around 30. A modern white whale. I would argue plenty was proven about the market value of the card.

Both of the final bids also do not come from bidders with inflated statistics with one seller or a large number of bid retractions.

With a card this limited it is natural for only a few to push it to its highest point and I would agree with Frank if this was a more available card with an outlier sale due to only several bidders but on a card with such a limited number printed it says everything about the value of the card.

PWCC had close to 9,000 listings a few days ago when I looked. The party has not ended and isn't going to end.

People wan't to buy cards and will go to the source of those cards. After all they are closer to a stock exchange than a true card dealer.
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