Runs Produced Index (RPI) indicative of a players value to a winning team

[Rich Falvo]

Cool stuff, Ted. I've seen the Runs Produced stat, which is basically the denominator part of your stat (R+RBI-HR) without the at bats figured in. Factoring in at bats like you did would favor players who produced a lot of R and RBI without a lot of at bats or without a lot of Home Runs. I looked at the top 20 or so in Runs Produced and re-ranked them using your stat and came up with the below top 10:


Ruth
Gehrig
Williams
Anson
Foxx
Cobb
Bonds
Ott
Speaker
A-Rod

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Rich Falvo

Cool stuff, Ted. I've seen the Runs Produced stat, which is basically the denominator part of your stat (R+RBI-HR) without the at bats figured in. Factoring in at bats like you did would favor players who produced a lot of R and RBI without a lot of at bats or without a lot of Home Runs. I looked at the top 20 or so in Runs Produced and re-ranked them using your stat and came up with the below top 10:


Ruth
Gehrig
Williams
Anson
Foxx
Cobb
Bonds
Ott
Speaker
A-Rod

Hi Rich

Thanks for your post, and taking the time in computing the ML leaders of this stat....and posting the top 10.

As I noted in my first post here, I figured Ruth and Gehrig were most likely the top leaders in the RPI factor.



TED Z

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[HistoricNewspapers]

Hi, the first thing that popped into my head while reading this was, how many guys did you have on your team? Usually men's leagues have just enough players to field a team, or maybe one extra guy. Weren't all the guys going to be playing regardless?

[tedzan]

Hi Brian

The Bell Labs facility we worked at had 2000+ employees. There were 4 Softball fields on the property. Our team roster consisted of 20 guys.
Twenty was the League limit. And, once we became a winning team, every one wanted to join the DingBats.

Furthermore, 20 was a good number, because at any given week, as many as 5 guys could be away on business trips.

Our Softball League had 3 divisions.....

"A" division (4 teams) was the super-fast pitch guys

"B" division (8 teams) was a mix of medium-fast to fast pitch guys (our division)

"C" division (6 teams) was the slow pitch guys


TED Z

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[steve B]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Brian

The Bell Labs facility we worked at had 2000+ employees. There were 4 Softball fields on the property. Our team roster consisted of 20 guys.
Twenty was the League limit. And, once we became a winning team, every one wanted to join the DingBats.

Furthermore, 20 was a good number, because at any given week, as many as 5 guys could be away on business trips.

Our Softball League had 3 divisions.....

"A" division (4 teams) was the super-fast pitch guys

"B" division (8 teams) was a mix of medium-fast to fast pitch guys (our division)

"C" division (6 teams) was the slow pitch guys


TED Z

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That's got me curious.

Was it fast pitch just with pitchers who weren't all that fast? Or What I played that was called "modified pitch" - No windmill deliveries like fast pitch, and also nothing above I think 6 feet of arc where slow pitch starts.

It's a fun game, more like baseball than the others. We had a fairly quick pitcher who could get into probably the 50's when he was trying. But we also had old guys in the infield and younger quick guys in the outfield so our "strategy" was to sort of lob it in and let the fast kids chase it down.

[HistoricNewspapers]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Brian

The Bell Labs facility we worked at had 2000+ employees. There were 4 Softball fields on the property. Our team roster consisted of 20 guys.
Twenty was the League limit. And, once we became a winning team, every one wanted to join the DingBats.

Furthermore, 20 was a good number, because at any given week, as many as 5 guys could be away on business trips.

Our Softball League had 3 divisions.....

"A" division (4 teams) was the super-fast pitch guys

"B" division (8 teams) was a mix of medium-fast to fast pitch guys (our division)

"C" division (6 teams) was the slow pitch guys


TED Z

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Sounds like a nice venture....and by the way you talk about it, it left a lasting impression on you. Thats pretty cool.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by HistoricNewspapers

Sounds like a nice venture....and by the way you talk about it, it left a lasting impression on you. Thats pretty cool.

Hi Brian

Our Laboratory was developing new Hi-speed series of Modems. We put in many overtime hours. So, once a week going out to the ball field
and playing some serious Softball was great relief....and, a lot of fun.
When we Won 13 games (Lost only 1) in 1977, our Softball League voted to upgrade us into the "A" division. The guys were all excited over
this move. I was NOT ! I asked my team members if...… "they enjoyed being 1st place winners and getting trophies each year ?"
I insisted that we stay where we are. After some thought, and a beer (or two) at the Red Roof, the majority of guys agreed with me.

The 2nd place team in 1977 (the Yannigans) were switched to the "A" division (super-fast pitch). In 1978, the Yannigans had a 0-12 record.
And, we continued to lead the "B" division.

Check-out my "GOLDEN GLOVE" award (from my team) in this photo (on the shelf next to my left shoulder)





TED Z

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[Fred]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Brian

Our Laboratory was developing new Hi-speed series of Modems. We put in many overtime hours. So, once a week going out to the ball field
and playing some serious Softball was great relief....and, a lot of fun.
When we Won 13 games (Lost only 1) in 1977, our Softball League voted to upgrade us into the "A" division. The guys were all excited over
this move. I was NOT ! I asked my team members if...… "they enjoyed being 1st place winners and getting trophies each year ?"
I insisted that we stay where we are. After some thought, and a beer (or two) at the Red Roof, the majority of guys agreed with me.

The 2nd place team in 1977 (the Yannigans) were switched to the "A" division (super-fast pitch). In 1978, the Yannigans had a 0-12 record.
And, we continued to lead the "B" division.

Check-out my "GOLDEN GLOVE" award (from my team) in this photo (on the shelf next to my left shoulder)





TED Z

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Ted,

I have to ask - how fast were those modems back then?

[Leon]

Nice confirmation. Interesting stuff. Ted is a human calculator .

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Rich

Thanks for your post, and taking the time in computing the ML leaders of this stat....and posting the top 10.

As I noted in my first post here, I figured Ruth and Gehrig were most likely the top leaders in the RPI factor.



TED Z

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