Runs Produced Index (RPI) indicative of a players value to a winning team

[Ronnie73]

Sounds like the Moneyball movie.

[JackW]

Originally Posted by Ronnie73

Sounds like the Moneyball movie.

This is what I was thinking. Ted was using analytics decades before MLB did. Groundbreaking ideas. To do it without a computer (I assume) is what's really amazing. "Beautiful mind" stuff.

[frankbmd]

Bill James got the Runs Created formula from Ted.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by JackW

This is what I was thinking. Ted was using analytics decades before MLB did. Groundbreaking ideas. To do it without a computer (I assume) is what's really amazing. "Beautiful mind" stuff.

Hi Jack

I'm overwhelmed by your complimentary words. I really appreciate them. We were in a very competitive Softball league composed of a mix of medium-fast & fast pitch.
And, in order to compete, I would utilize whatever game plan I felt would win. Our division was composed of 8 teams. We played each one of them twice every season.

Each team required a different strategy to beat them, but the one constant winning formula was my RPI. And, you are correct, I did it without the benefit of a computer.
Our best season was 1977 when we won 13 games and lost only one.

Oh, and the "icing on the cake" back then was after each game, when we all met at our favorite watering-hole....The Red Roof in Holmdel, NJ.


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[Rich Falvo]

Cool stuff, Ted. I've seen the Runs Produced stat, which is basically the denominator part of your stat (R+RBI-HR) without the at bats figured in. Factoring in at bats like you did would favor players who produced a lot of R and RBI without a lot of at bats or without a lot of Home Runs. I looked at the top 20 or so in Runs Produced and re-ranked them using your stat and came up with the below top 10:


Ruth
Gehrig
Williams
Anson
Foxx
Cobb
Bonds
Ott
Speaker
A-Rod

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Rich Falvo

Cool stuff, Ted. I've seen the Runs Produced stat, which is basically the denominator part of your stat (R+RBI-HR) without the at bats figured in. Factoring in at bats like you did would favor players who produced a lot of R and RBI without a lot of at bats or without a lot of Home Runs. I looked at the top 20 or so in Runs Produced and re-ranked them using your stat and came up with the below top 10:


Ruth
Gehrig
Williams
Anson
Foxx
Cobb
Bonds
Ott
Speaker
A-Rod

Hi Rich

Thanks for your post, and taking the time in computing the ML leaders of this stat....and posting the top 10.

As I noted in my first post here, I figured Ruth and Gehrig were most likely the top leaders in the RPI factor.



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[HistoricNewspapers]

Hi, the first thing that popped into my head while reading this was, how many guys did you have on your team? Usually men's leagues have just enough players to field a team, or maybe one extra guy. Weren't all the guys going to be playing regardless?

[tedzan]

Hi Brian

The Bell Labs facility we worked at had 2000+ employees. There were 4 Softball fields on the property. Our team roster consisted of 20 guys.
Twenty was the League limit. And, once we became a winning team, every one wanted to join the DingBats.

Furthermore, 20 was a good number, because at any given week, as many as 5 guys could be away on business trips.

Our Softball League had 3 divisions.....

"A" division (4 teams) was the super-fast pitch guys

"B" division (8 teams) was a mix of medium-fast to fast pitch guys (our division)

"C" division (6 teams) was the slow pitch guys


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[Leon]

Nice confirmation. Interesting stuff. Ted is a human calculator .

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Rich

Thanks for your post, and taking the time in computing the ML leaders of this stat....and posting the top 10.

As I noted in my first post here, I figured Ruth and Gehrig were most likely the top leaders in the RPI factor.



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