BBCE 1952 Topps Wax Pack "Brick"

Republicaninmass · #1 10-05-2019, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by toppcat

Not a waste at all Ted, I got to remind myself what a *ucking nitwit you are.

I'm sure when your parents watched you in marching band, they swore up and down you were the only one who was "in step".

Any other experiments or pipedreams Dr Stranglove that I can simply poke a hole in?

I just wish you'd waited until I sold off all my high numbers before the radical change in thought amongst buyers.

Walk into a show, let me know how many you find. Ask dealers how long they last when they are in the case. It must just be a frenzy based on 65 years of rumors.

mckinneyj · #2 10-05-2019, 04:37 PM

As a collector or 52Ts I find myself in Ted's camp. The 52 semi-high commons can frequently be found in lots along with lower numbered cards without any special mention on ebay. Any lots with highs included are sure to advertise as such. Vendors at card shows have trouble finding or keeping any high series cards. Semi-highs are easily found at shows. I think the price differential between the high and semi-high series is an accurate reflection of the relative populations. Just my observation/experience...

toppcat · #3 10-05-2019, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mckinneyj

As a collector or 52Ts I find myself in Ted's camp. The 52 semi-high commons can frequently be found in lots along with lower numbered cards without any special mention on ebay. Any lots with highs included are sure to advertise as such. Vendors at card shows have trouble finding or keeping any high series cards. Semi-highs are easily found at shows. I think the price differential between the high and semi-high series is an accurate reflection of the relative populations. Just my observation/experience...

I think the spread is accurate to a point, there is some type of "legendary" status kicker working with the highs as well. I did the canvass as I have never really seen a comparison of the semi and high series anywhere, so it was instructive and I figured I could get a blog post out of it as well. I thought there would be less highs than I found. 60 of #368 surprised me for sure.

sflayank · #4 10-05-2019, 05:52 PM

Just look at the pop report
Every card from 100 to 407 with the exception of mantle May's berra feller ..the same pop
500-60] cards of each approx...
That's over 50000 hi#s graded
Probably 250000 not graded
Rare? Hmmm

toppcat · #5 10-06-2019, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sflayank

Just look at the pop report
Every card from 100 to 407 with the exception of mantle May's berra feller ..the same pop
500-60] cards of each approx...
That's over 50000 hi#s graded
Probably 250000 not graded
Rare? Hmmm

Yup. In demand vs rare.

Republicaninmass · #6 10-07-2019, 08:56 AM

Let's rely on skewed data, not people who collect the set.

Advantage of grading a low grade common

Advantage of grading a high number.

No affect on cards submitted.

High numbers, hardly rare or scarce. Demand outweighs supply.

Im having a great day Dave. Not wasting my life debating and researching something I cant control. I worked with the 52 set for a majority of my collecting career, only about 25 years. Aside from Rosen's find, that produced many of the high grade Highs in the pop report, I dont believe I've seen any collection with only or the same amount of high numbers.

I have a hard time believing even repacks 10 years later would go unnoticed and not be scooped up by at least a few collectors working on the set.

I dont believe for one second, given the stars and amount of Giants, Yankees, and red sox in the high series, were an accident. It was loaded with September world series hopefuls and stars to encourage buying late in the season.

These are just opinions, and certainly worth what you paid for them. Just wanted to add my two cents.

I've also edited for spelling, not because I typed in some roid rage....David

toppcat · #7 10-07-2019, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Let's rely on skewed data, not people who collect the set.

Advantage of grading a low grade common

Advantage of grading a high number.

No affect on cards submitted.

High numbers, hardly rare or scarce. Demand outweighs supply.

Im having a great day Dave. Not wasting my life debating and researching something I cant control. I worked with the 52 set for a majority of my collecting career, only about 25 years. Aside from Rosen's find, that produced many of the high grade Highs in the pop report, I dont believe I've seen any collection with only or the same amount of high numbers.

I have a hard time believing even repacks 10 years later would go unnoticed and not be scooped up by at least a few collectors working on the set.

I dont believe for one second, given the stars and amount of Giants, Yankees, and red sox in the high series, were an accident. It was loaded with September world series hopefuls and stars to encourage buying late in the season.

These are just opinions, and certainly worth what you paid for them. Just wanted to add my two cents.

I've also edited for spelling, not because I typed in some roid rage....David

Hmmm, I haven't said about half the things you think I did and I don't think you have ever understood my original point, which was Topps never dumped the cards at Sea and instead got rid of excess warehouse stock to CCC around 1960, who sold them as singles.

toppcat · #8 10-05-2019, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

I'm sure when your parents watched you in marching band, they swore up and down you were the only one who was "in step".

Any other experiments or pipedreams Dr Stranglove that I can simply poke a hole in?

I just wish you'd waited until I sold off all my high numbers before the radical change in thought amongst buyers.

Walk into a show, let me know how many you find. Ask dealers how long they last when they are in the case. It must just be a frenzy based on 65 years of rumors.

Have a nice day Ted.

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