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Old 09-29-2019, 09:24 AM
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There are lawsuits going on with vaping..... no need to wait to see how it plays out 2 years from now and what choice do you have but to wait years..
I haven't heard of any fatalities resulting from altered/overgraded baseball cards yet?
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:46 AM
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so you've verified that of the 805 and counting people that have died related to vaping all are related to counterfeit rather than brand name cartridges? a lot of pulmonologists would disagree with you. do you vape or in some way benefit from the vaping industry?
https://time.com/5688229/cdc-thc-vaping-deaths/
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Old 09-30-2019, 06:51 AM
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I haven't heard of any fatalities resulting from altered/overgraded baseball cards yet?
so there are never any lawsuits for anything other than if there are fatalities...

altered cards involve money, you are right nobody ever sues or no crime occurs because of money....
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To me the market or lack of buyers is what will Stop or Slow down the fraud/manipulation. By now If people still don’t get it they never will.
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Old 09-30-2019, 05:57 PM
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so there are never any lawsuits for anything other than if there are fatalities...

altered cards involve money, you are right nobody ever sues or no crime occurs because of money....
You’re a civil lawyer and you’ve been beating the drums for months about suing PSA. Surely you must have a bunch of clients by now, no? After all who would potential litigants go to but you? When I was talking about Mastro’s fraud I had a number of Net 54 members who hired me to go after Mastro and his co-conspirators and multiple people got six figures back from them. So how many have you signed up?
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You’re a civil lawyer and you’ve been beating the drums for months about suing PSA. Surely you must have a bunch of clients by now, no? After all who would potential litigants go to but you? When I was talking about Mastro’s fraud I had a number of Net 54 members who hired me to go after Mastro and his co-conspirators and multiple people got six figures back from them. So how many have you signed up?
I would like to go after PSA, but I suspect "They made all the cards I want more expensive" isn't going to really work to show I have any actual damages....Especially since they've made the cards I do own more expensive as well.
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Old 10-01-2019, 01:42 PM
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You’re a civil lawyer and you’ve been beating the drums for months about suing PSA. Surely you must have a bunch of clients by now, no? After all who would potential litigants go to but you? When I was talking about Mastro’s fraud I had a number of Net 54 members who hired me to go after Mastro and his co-conspirators and multiple people got six figures back from them. So how many have you signed up?
My point is that there is nothing wrong really (and not to the extent of a mass issue ) because there are no lawsuits. Mastro fraud i agree there was something going on and thats why there were many people filing lawsuits/claims for lots of money

In this trimming issue there are no lawsuits so all of these complaining on the board seems odd considering there are no lawsuits. If it was such a big deal why arent there lawsuits. It appears everyone is getting paid back and/or happy is my point. Its been a long enough wait at this point for something to have happened. You are making my point. Thanks

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Old 10-01-2019, 04:05 PM
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My point is that there is nothing wrong really (and not to the extent of a mass issue ) because there are no lawsuits. Mastro fraud i agree there was something going on and thats why there were many people filing lawsuits/claims for lots of money

In this trimming issue there are no lawsuits so all of these complaining on the board seems odd considering there are no lawsuits. If it was such a big deal why arent there lawsuits. It appears everyone is getting paid back and/or happy is my point. Its been a long enough wait at this point for something to have happened. You are making my point. Thanks
There was one lawsuit against Mastro and it was a countersuit -- I know because I brought it. And many miserable victims, many of whom got paid back without having to resort to litigation. This is how it works sometimes, understood at least by most competent lawyers.

As for my point, the reason you aren't getting any calls from any potential litigants against PSA is, well, I think we both know. Even the second biggest dullard on the board understands.

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Old 10-02-2019, 06:33 AM
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There was one lawsuit against Mastro and it was a countersuit -- I know because I brought it. And many miserable victims, many of whom got paid back without having to resort to litigation. This is how it works sometimes, understood at least by most competent lawyers.

As for my point, the reason you aren't getting any calls from any potential litigants against PSA is, well, I think we both know. Even the second biggest dullard on the board understands.
the point is that nobody is getting any calls to file suit. If this is an earth shattering deal, to have zero lawsuits at this point says something is all i am saying. With Mastro there was at least one lawsuit......like i said with the trimming issue with PSA, people must be happy with the outcome/getting paid back/satisfied, again you prove my point...

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Old 10-02-2019, 11:46 AM
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the point is that nobody is getting any calls to file suit. If this is an earth shattering deal, to have zero lawsuits at this point says something is all i am saying. With Mastro there was at least one lawsuit......like i said with the trimming issue with PSA, people must be happy with the outcome/getting paid back/satisfied, again you prove my point...
I’m not proving your point at all except for the one on top of your head. Just because strip mall lawyers don’t get calls to go after PSA doesn’t mean other lawyers aren’t. There was only one lawsuit brought against Mastro — does that mean that all his victims were otherwise happy? Your logic or lack thereof is the reason why you have no knowledge of potential litigants lining up against PSA. Just admit it: you know nothing firsthand about any of the legal issues here.
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