NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-24-2019, 07:42 AM
kevinlenane kevinlenane is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 240
Default Grader Preferences for Fragile Cards and Tape Stains

So i have these "Goudey" cards that i pulled from the scrapbook - they check all the boxes I can find on whether they are authentic and though I suspect Leon and others are probably right that they are not real - it feels prudent to at least spend $20 to get them proven to be reprints. I have two questions though. First, the Ruth is pretty fragile - is there a grader that is more likely to grade a fragile version of the card? Ive seen rejections by just refusing to grade based on fragility from SGC. Is this a common issue? Second, I actually have a couple 1941 Playballs i did not spend a ton of money on because they have some small tape stains - Im not going to try to fiddle with them but I've read that SGC has a 2 minimum on cards w tape stains while the PSA has a 3 minimum. Is that generally the rule there? My feeling right now to go to SGC is pretty strong given the PSA's lack of scrutiny but I also know that a bump on a grade in the Joe Dimaggio PB would be significant in terms of overall value. Then again im kind of getting attached to all these cards so it may not really matter. So the two questions are

1. Is there a TPG that is more likely to grade a fragile card?
2. Which TPG is more friendly to pesky tape stains on otherwise decent looking cards.?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-24-2019, 04:47 PM
swarmee's Avatar
swarmee swarmee is offline
J0hn Raff3rty
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Niceville FL
Posts: 7,117
Default

PSA will also not holder a card they think might get damaged in the process. And I would not expect any 3 as a maximum from PSA for tape stains. I'd more expect a 1 Poor.
__________________
--
PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head
PSA: Regularly Get Cheated
BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
Oh, what a difference a year makes.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-24-2019, 09:48 PM
PhillyFan1883's Avatar
PhillyFan1883 PhillyFan1883 is offline
Connor
Connor
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 220
Default

You could sneak into a 1.5 or 2 but plan for a 1 as the other member said. I have not seen many or any tape stain PSA 3s. They might be out there. I have a 1916 card with a small piece of tape on it otherwise nice in a PSA 1.5..

The goudeys should not be fragile, something in storage could have damaged them, but the goudeys overall are pretty rugged and strong cards.
__________________
Successful BST Transactions w/ — ezez420, Old Judge , chris counts, Moonlight Graham, Marckus99
Brian Van Horn, qed2190, danf19, BuzzD, ThomasL, nolemmings, Andretti83, soxinseven and many more.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-25-2019, 07:22 AM
kevinlenane kevinlenane is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 240
Default

Thanks - FWIW minimum should read maximum but I'll just expect a 1 and be surprised by anything higher. I'm curious whether they touch the Ruth since it's really just the front of the card...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-27-2019, 11:03 AM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is offline
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 35,034
Default

I am leaning towards the 2 cards talked about as not being authentic but as I have said, certainly not sure. And hopefully they are good. I think all of the TPG's are careful with very fragile cards. They tend to be safe and that isn't unwise. That all said, I would try SGC first if it were me. Yes, they advertise here but they were my grader of choice long before running this forum. Good luck.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinlenane View Post
So i have these "Goudey" cards that i pulled from the scrapbook - they check all the boxes I can find on whether they are authentic and though I suspect Leon and others are probably right that they are not real - it feels prudent to at least spend $20 to get them proven to be reprints. I have two questions though. First, the Ruth is pretty fragile - is there a grader that is more likely to grade a fragile version of the card? Ive seen rejections by just refusing to grade based on fragility from SGC. Is this a common issue? Second, I actually have a couple 1941 Playballs i did not spend a ton of money on because they have some small tape stains - Im not going to try to fiddle with them but I've read that SGC has a 2 minimum on cards w tape stains while the PSA has a 3 minimum. Is that generally the rule there? My feeling right now to go to SGC is pretty strong given the PSA's lack of scrutiny but I also know that a bump on a grade in the Joe Dimaggio PB would be significant in terms of overall value. Then again im kind of getting attached to all these cards so it may not really matter. So the two questions are

1. Is there a TPG that is more likely to grade a fragile card?
2. Which TPG is more friendly to pesky tape stains on otherwise decent looking cards.?
__________________
Leon Luckey

Last edited by Leon; 09-27-2019 at 11:04 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-27-2019, 12:47 PM
BigBeerGut BigBeerGut is offline
Michael Durrett
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Henderson NV
Posts: 113
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leon View Post
I am leaning towards the 2 cards talked about as not being authentic but as I have said, certainly not sure. And hopefully they are good. I think all of the TPG's are careful with very fragile cards. They tend to be safe and that isn't unwise. That all said, I would try SGC first if it were me. Yes, they advertise here but they were my grader of choice long before running this forum. Good luck.
Leon is correct for sure! SGC is much more likely to encase fragile card!

MD
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-28-2019, 07:18 AM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is offline
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 35,034
Default

There is good reason for any TPG to not holder a very fragile card. This kind of thing can happen.

https://www.bst-auctions.com/1919_W5...A-lot5401.aspx


Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBeerGut View Post
Leon is correct for sure! SGC is much more likely to encase fragile card!

MD
__________________
Leon Luckey
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
51 Bowman -Wax stains or Gum stains? pawpawdiv9 Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 5 08-04-2015 10:06 PM
Poll: Preferences to displaying your cards WhenItWasAHobby Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 12 07-29-2010 12:34 PM
OT/ I hate magic tape, and cards in contact with tape FrankWakefield Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 18 10-02-2009 05:16 PM
Tape Stains and Soaking Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 2 01-11-2008 06:34 PM
Scotch Tape Stains Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 15 03-12-2005 10:55 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:30 PM.


ebay GSB