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Old 09-20-2019, 05:17 AM
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For the card you point out, American Beauties are normally considered to be cut short from the factory since their packs were narrower rather than trimmed. The left and right borders are very small for that reason.

Edit: since I saw your original post got edited, maybe you know this already? I didn't log in to see the higher res scans.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:21 AM
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For the card you point out, American Beauties are normally considered to be cut short from the factory since their packs were narrower rather than trimmed. The left and right borders are very small for that reason.

Edit: since I saw your original post got edited, maybe you know this already? I didn't log in to see the higher res scans.
John, you are correct and I am aware of that. But even by American Beauty standards, this card (to me at least) stood out, and that fact alone should have lead to more stringent examination of the borders.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:37 AM
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Scrolling through some of the hall collection i have to agree... and I’m not referring to the American beauty cards. Many of the cards appear to be tampered with having super thin borders...this is nothing new to me.
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The Bat On 7.5 sure looked to me like it had a crease in the upper left corner.
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Wasn’t David Hall in the room when Mastro’s handiwork was given an 8? His entire collection is one big conflict of interest.
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wasn’t david hall in the room when mastro’s handiwork was given an 8? His entire collection is one big conflict of interest.
yup!
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Old 09-20-2019, 07:09 AM
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David claims his Wagner has no creases but just trimmed on the sides.... he definitely see things differently... go figure!
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Old 09-20-2019, 07:40 AM
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Wasn’t David Hall in the room when Mastro’s handiwork was given an 8? His entire collection is one big conflict of interest.
I would surmise not only was he in the room but it was his decision. It was his company.
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I would surmise not only was he in the room but it was his decision. It was his company.

Whatever card owns serial number 00000001 needs to be HUGE!!! (In fact serial number 00000002 was also a Wagner)
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Wasn’t David Hall in the room when Mastro’s handiwork was given an 8?
Hall said this exactly at a PSA lunch at the Baltimore National (if memory serves me right) a number of years ago.

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Does anybody have any thoughts as to what the sale prices reveal about the market, and whether the market is adjusting to reflect concerns over alterations?
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