PWCC Black Swamp crossover

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Once a card enters the vault, transparency of subsequent transactions vanishes like those stock certificates we used keep for our cherished assets. I wonder if there is an operating room in the vault. “Trust me, I’m a card doctor.”

Is the Vault is a front for fake bids???....keep pumping back in the vault unless a sucker comes in hot last minute

Terrible

[barrysloate]

What's the over/under on that 30K price? I say it sells for less.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

What's the over/under on that 30K price? I say it sells for less.

sells...or "sells" barry????

[phikappapsi]

I just don't see how any major hobby collector would be unaware of the scandal, and then assuming they're aware, how they'd confidently buy a PWCC crossover cracked out of the BSF? At least in the original BSF slab you can trust PWCC didn't have card doctors with access to it.

Now that it's seen open air and been in their hands, this one in my view loses all credibility

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

sells...or "sells" barry????

Haven't a clue.

[toledo_mudhen]

WOW - an amazing card

absolutely correct on the question of "why on earth would anyone have that reholdered"

(I bid the $5000 on it - just cuz it was fun to do)

[Rhotchkiss]

New flip, yes. But how do you know it’s a BSF cross over?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

New flip, yes. But how do you know it’s a BSF cross over?

Because a card of that quality did not exist before the find.

[ullmandds]

It is absolutely 100% from the Black Swamp find...there is no question about it

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

New flip, yes. But how do you know it’s a BSF cross over?

I think just reholder - not crossover

[drcy]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

sells...or "sells" barry????

sells or "sells" or ""sells""

Chris Farley air quotes

Always proud to note that Chris Farley and I are from the same hometown

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

There were only 627 graded E98's before Black Swamp. Now over 1500. The PSA article states that the pop report doubled in size with black swamps. No Blue's in Black Swamp and the highest graded Blue is a 5.5 followed by 5 5's. Like I said I think everything 6 and over is a BSF card.

[swarmee]

If you remember, the family members who sold five years ago only had half the collection. The other relatives held them from sale so they didnt dilute the sale prices of the first group. It's covered in the Strange Inheritance show about BSF. Some were sent to SGC as well, and those may have been the ones resubmitted to PSA without the provenance for the flip.

[LincolnVT]

+1

Originally Posted by swarmee

If you remember, the family members who sold five years ago only had half the collection. The other relatives held them from sale so they didnt dilute the sale prices of the first group. It's covered in the Strange Inheritance show about BSF. Some were sent to SGC as well, and those may have been the ones resubmitted to PSA without the provenance for the flip.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by swarmee

If you remember, the family members who sold five years ago only had half the collection. The other relatives held them from sale so they didnt dilute the sale prices of the first group. It's covered in the Strange Inheritance show about BSF. Some were sent to SGC as well, and those may have been the ones resubmitted to PSA without the provenance for the flip.

Good point

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by swarmee

If you remember, the family members who sold five years ago only had half the collection. The other relatives held them from sale so they didnt dilute the sale prices of the first group. It's covered in the Strange Inheritance show about BSF. Some were sent to SGC as well, and those may have been the ones resubmitted to PSA without the provenance for the flip.

Good point