1991 topps desert shield cards need help

[Jakrauss44]

also there duplicates triples and quads of other cards besides chipper and I had started to put everything in order as again I was going to start building a set

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Jakrauss44

also there duplicates triples and quads of other cards besides chipper and I had started to put everything in order as again I was going to start building a set

Can you post a better picture of the 2 Boggs and then take any one of the other players you have 4 of and post them with the logos showing beside each other?

Do all the logos look like the ones on the chipper cards or do some appear different?

I am about to head out for supper so it could be a hour or 2 before I can get back to you. Thanks for posting the pictures.

[Jakrauss44]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Can you post a better picture of the 2 Boggs and then take any one of the other players you have 4 of and post them with the logos showing beside each other?

Do all the logos look like the ones on the chipper cards or do some appear different?

I am about to head out for supper so it could be a hour or 2 before I can get back to you. Thanks for posting the pictures.:)

Yah no problem at all, will do. I ran out for food as well so when I get back home I’ll throw them up their. As I said in the beginning they don’t appear or feel right to me either that’s why I’m searching to begin with. The thing I’m completely confused on is they appear to check all the boxes anyone says to look for. That palm tree just looks weird to me. I’ve talked to a couple other family member that’s were in the war at that time, they both said they appear to look right but they also said it was a long time ago and baseball cards were the last thing on their minds so to remember specific little details like that they didn’t want to say yeah it’s def legit when it wasn’t any where close to being on their priority list at the time.

[Jakrauss44]

And legitimately appreciate the feedback and input. If I didn’t I wouldn’t be on here just seemed like compare to other boards there was better material and more knowledge here idk. Especially pertaining to this topic.

[Jakrauss44]

alright sorry that took me a little while but here is what I pulled together. first up will be the 4 of a kind, honestly didn't look to see who it was lol but here is that. also when I talked to Zach thru PM he mentioned to look at the other threads to see what sheets the chippers were printed on and see if they match. however I wasn't able to locate those other threads. I know where the letter is located would you maybe happen to know? or the Boggs even? I have the Boggs pics as well, bout to post those too.

[Jakrauss44]

why did those rotate? and why didn't all of them come thru? oh well heres another try

[Jakrauss44]

yeah not sure why those pictures rotated like that, they were oriented just as if you were looking at the card the right way. anyways here are the boggs pictures. I started shaking so theirs two of each Boggs card.

[Jakrauss44]

I give up man lol, zero clue why those are rotating like that, hope that isn't a huge problem. let me know if you know how to fix that as well, thanks man.

[bnorth]

They are 100% fake. Now this part is just a guess. These have been a hot item from the beginning. Your cousins Uncle got screwed when he purchased them. The guy probably had him open a few packs to show they were DS cards. It is very easy to open and reseal the wax packs. They were going for good money even back then. Even the commons demanded good $ so scam artists would make fakes of all the cards.

The reason there are 4 Chipper Jones cards is because back in the day they were not worth big money like they are now. They are real 1991 Topps cards because the only difference is the foil stamp. The wax packs were also exactly the same so without opening them you would have no idea.

[bnorth]

Double post

[Jim65]

Compare the palms. Genuine cards, the palms stand out like 3D effect, yours the palm are totally flat.

I say fake as well.

[Jayjones82]

Send 1 or 2 to PSA for grading. You'll either be out $50 or find out they're real (or, at least, gradable by PSA...if that's worth anything)

[Tripredacus]

I do not know which is which, but I want to point out in this comparison:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...05&postcount=5

That the OP's pictures show a palm tree with rounded or circular features, while the stamp shown in bnorth's post are more angular.

[Jakrauss44]

Originally Posted by Jayjones82

Send 1 or 2 to PSA for grading. You'll either be out $50 or find out they're real (or, at least, gradable by PSA...if that's worth anything)

True, still debating on it honestly.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Jayjones82

Send 1 or 2 to PSA for grading. You'll either be out $50 or find out they're real (or, at least, gradable by PSA...if that's worth anything)

Unless he gets a completely incompetent grader it would be like throwing cash out the window of a moving vehicle.

If you look at the small details in post #5 you will see the only thing that is correct is they spelled OPERATION DESERY SHIELD correctly. Counterfeit logo is on the left and the other 2 are real. I could easily list 20 things wrong with the counterfeit one.

I sent the OP 2 real ones so he can compare his fake ones to them in hand.

[Mike D.]

Originally Posted by Jayjones82

Send 1 or 2 to PSA for grading. You'll either be out $50 or find out they're real (or, at least, gradable by PSA...if that's worth anything)

Someone on the board is organizing a group submission - $9 a card plus return shipping - so not too big an investment to try!