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Old 08-18-2019, 08:56 PM
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Posting the card in question as a favor to the OP...
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Old 08-18-2019, 09:38 PM
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Im not crazy about the lower right corner and Im not entirely sure what is covering up the left half of the “c” in Chicago, but I also don’t see anything definitive that would lead me to feel the card is clearly restored.

If I were holed up in a cubicle in Newport Beach I think I would be okay giving this a 1 at this time. There might be something I am missing by not judging the card in hand though.

Thanks for sharing.

FYI-I took a second look after I posted this and noticed the right edge gets shorter near the center of the card then wider towards the corners. This could have given the grader pause as well. There is also what appears to be a different sploch of color near the left side of Chance’s neckline. It might just be a small stain. Very tough to tell from the scan.

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Old 08-18-2019, 10:00 PM
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They're calling that bottom right trimmed, I am almost positive.
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Old 08-18-2019, 10:08 PM
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I don't see where it's altered either. It all looks like honest wear to me and just a poor condition example. The authentic grade could just be from the excessive wear, but I don't see the altered part.
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They're calling that bottom right trimmed, I am almost positive.
Agree, that whole right side is wavy. While it may be honest wear in some cases, when an edge doesn't go in a straight line they are still going to call it altered.
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They're calling that bottom right trimmed, I am almost positive.
I am more than confident this is the correct answer.
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All that being said I don't think the difference between that card in "A" or in "1" is going to be significant.
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All that being said I don't think the difference between that card in "A" or in "1" is going to be significant.
That's part of my gripe (not necessarily the OP's). There seems like a few educated guesses here. But there should be no need to guess. If you as a TPG are going to distinguish among levels of a beat-to-crap card (altered vs not altered), and in no-one's right mind would grade higher than a 1, why not say why you determined it was altered as well? There is little, if any, monetary incentive to hide the fact that it is altered, so why not provide details?

My rant wasn't directed at Scott, just a jumping off point.
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Sometimes they put a reason on the slab such as "Authentic Trimmed". I don't understand why it's not consistent.

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