2019 Chicago National: Best attendance since 1991 in Anaheim

[pokerplyr80]

If 91 in Anaheim was so good why dont they go back? A west coast show would be awesome.

[ALR-bishop]

Was there Thursday through Saturday. Seemed to me the biggest crowds were around tables and booths with newer stuff,

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

If 91 in Anaheim was so good why dont they go back? A west coast show would be awesome.

I would love a SoCal show. They will never come though. Cleveland and Chicago seem to be the best shot as both have access to a huge population base in an 800 mil radius. Much more central for dealers to transport by vehicle instead of plane.

Just my opinion.

[Kenny Cole]

All I will say is that Atlantic City sucks. SoCal would be waaaaaay better. So would almost anywhere else for that matter.

[ALBB]

No No, A/C is gonna be huge !

[egbeachley]

I had a couple last minute circumstances that should have kept me away but I drove from DC to be there just one day. Simply because of the PWCC / PSA scandal.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

If 91 in Anaheim was so good why dont they go back? A west coast show would be awesome.

Because 2000 and 2006 were so bad.

[pokerplyr80]

I wasn't around for those either. I would think that once every 4 or 5 years they could find a suitable venue in the LA area or Vegas. Anaheim would be awesome for me personally and I would guess there are 15 million people within 100 miles and maybe 25m in 250 or so miles. I could be off on those but there should be plenty for a good show.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I wasn't around for those either. I would think that once every 4 or 5 years they could find a suitable venue in the LA area or Vegas. Anaheim would be awesome for me personally and I would guess there are 15 million people within 100 miles and maybe 25m in 250 or so miles. I could be off on those but there should be plenty for a good show.

Is there a local promoter putting on a show twice a year for ~25 years there that attracts national dealers? That is why Chicago is so successful. There is an etablished matket. Why leave that to take a chance on the unknown?

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by rats60

Is there a local promoter putting on a show twice a year for ~25 years there that attracts national dealers? That is why Chicago is so successful. There is an etablished matket. Why leave that to take a chance on the unknown?

You don't need to leave Chicago. It can still take place there every other year, as it does currently. Cleveland and AC are crappy venues, in which it's difficult to even get a direct flight. Anaheim, SD, Denver or Vegas would all be far better.

I know they get Cleveland for free because of it's lack of desirability, so it will have to stay in the rotation. But it could still alternate something like this...

Chicago
Cleveland
Chicago
Anaheim
Chicago
Cleveland
Chicago
Anaheim
etc.

Virtually nobody I know who's situated West of the Mississippi attends AC, because of the crappy logistics. A scant few attend Cleveland, and Chicago is by far the easiest/best.

A very poorly run operation, IMHO.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I wasn't around for those either. I would think that once every 4 or 5 years they could find a suitable venue in the LA area or Vegas. Anaheim would be awesome for me personally and I would guess there are 15 million people within 100 miles and maybe 25m in 250 or so miles. I could be off on those but there should be plenty for a good show.

Why would they want to? Number of people does not equate to attendance, and attendance does not equate to dollars spent.

Let me ask this to those saying the west coast would be a great place for a show (specifically CA). If it is such a hotbed, where are all the LOCAL or REGIONAL shows? I would wager there are a number of reasons for it (expense, interest, location, et al), but I think people need to really think about WHY that is to garner any insight as to why CA specifically doesn't happen.

[rjackson44]

Will in a.c i can swim there. From my beach house,,,

[Tony Gordon]

I was there all five days and it seemed well attended to me. I was very busy at my booth the whole time, even on Sunday. Also, it is well documented that the National sticks with the current three locations because they are able to book years in advance and do not have to deal with extra union fees. Venues in other cities will not allow them to book two, three years in advance and many have expensive union fees and rules that would cause dealer fees to skyrocket.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Chicago doesn't have union fees? That's a big change from when I used to be involved with events there.

[RiceBondsMntna2Young]

Originally Posted by tschock

Why would they want to? Number of people does not equate to attendance, and attendance does not equate to dollars spent.

Let me ask this to those saying the west coast would be a great place for a show (specifically CA). If it is such a hotbed, where are all the LOCAL or REGIONAL shows? I would wager there are a number of reasons for it (expense, interest, location, et al), but I think people need to really think about WHY that is to garner any insight as to why CA specifically doesn't happen.

The Anaheim area has a decent warehouse sized show set up twice a week every single week of every year, with a mixture of comics and cards.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by tschock

Why would they want to? Number of people does not equate to attendance, and attendance does not equate to dollars spent.

Let me ask this to those saying the west coast would be a great place for a show (specifically CA). If it is such a hotbed, where are all the LOCAL or REGIONAL shows? I would wager there are a number of reasons for it (expense, interest, location, et al), but I think people need to really think about WHY that is to garner any insight as to why CA specifically doesn't happen.

There are a few out here. I think someone else was referring to the Frank and Sons show, which runs twice a week. Long Beach has a decent sized show every 3 months or so that is more coins than cards, but still plenty of tables. And I've seen a net54 member promoting another LA area show, although I've never attended that one.

I would guess plenty of midwest and east coast collectors would be willing to travel out west once every few years for a show. And a lot of us out here that don't feel like going to Cleveland or Atlantic City would attend.