Done buying high end cards

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by MULLINS5

I too am done. Been collecting raw since this mess was discovered and have been having more fun than I've had the past 20 years collecting graded.

This. A hobby is supposed to be fun. When crime and money suck the fun out of it, time to re-evaluate. I barely looked at a slabbed card at the National this year and it was so much fun to rely on my own assessments, not mention a hell of a lot easier to bring home my cards in mylar sleeves rather than slabs. You almost forget how nice a 33 Goudey looks in hand and not separated from you by a layer of plastic.

[LincolnVT]

I think that it's still safe to buy high grade cards that have solid provenance. But there are only so many of those cards to be had...

Also, wondering if anyone has a timelframe on the cards that are currently in question? Graded in the past year or two, maybe three? Maybe it's safe to still buy high graded cards in older holders?

[Exhibitman]

From what I understand this has been going on for many years. There are no safe cards except the ones you submitted or that were submitted by a trusted colleague. I sent in a lot of cards for PSA and SGC grading pre-2008; I have the records of all of them and if I ever sell out my collection those cards will be presented as such.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by LincolnVT

I think that it's still safe to buy high grade cards that have solid provenance. But there are only so many of those cards to be had...

Also, wondering if anyone has a timelframe on the cards that are currently in question? Graded in the past year or two, maybe three? Maybe it's safe to still buy high graded cards in older holders?

Oh God no many elite card doctors have been on the scene since the early 90s.

[barrysloate]

I think it just might be more lucrative to be a card doctor than a medical doctor.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I think it just might be more lucrative to be a card doctor than a medical doctor.

Ha-Ha!!! With no repurcussions! Medical doctors have to worry about malpractice suits. These guys are performing at will.

[Brian Van Horn]

The polar ends of this hobby that always make shake my head:

1. The cards were made for the most part for kids. Now, unless you were an obsessive-compulsive, most kids flipped, dinged and beat up the cards.

2. The adults who want pristine to bring back memories or satisfy their greed.

These ideas have one incredible chasm between them.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by LincolnVT

I think that it's still safe to buy high grade cards that have solid provenance. But there are only so many of those cards to be had...

Also, wondering if anyone has a timelframe on the cards that are currently in question? Graded in the past year or two, maybe three? Maybe it's safe to still buy high graded cards in older holders?

you mean PWCC doesn't have all the high grade cards ALL THE TIME? The hell you say...NOW YOU KNOW WHY AND WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN COMING FROM. It ain't safe to buy squat period, It is a corrupt and disgusting hobby full of LOSERS. I used to love it, now I hate it. The time frame you seek is for 18-20 years this has been going on with cards constantly being flipped in and out of those stupid holders.

I did buy a $40 card however, going against my Stan Laurels. Yes, folks...even for the haters it's hard to quit.