Done buying high end cards

[Snapolit1]

Ha, that is indeed an awesome card. Yes, unique and ungraded may be the place to go for piece of mind and some kicks.

I also wonder if the card grading shenanigans won't push up the memorabilia and photo part of the hobby. (Not that I am naive enough to imagine that's without fraud.)

[irv]

I always, since I rejoined the hobby back in 2016, wanted to have a 8,9 or 10 1952 Topps card just to have one but since this scandal broke that desire is all but gone.

Luckily for me, I guess, I was limited to funds and focused, mainly, on raw cards.

90-95 percent of my cards in my FlickR and Net54 links below are raw and I will most likely keep them that way and will most likely continue purchasing raw cards going forward.

[sflayank]

thats a really nice schumacher
if anyone has other players let me know

[packs]

What's your definition of high end?

[MULLINS5]

I too am done. Been collecting raw since this mess was discovered and have been having more fun than I've had the past 20 years collecting graded.

The scandal has me honestly feeling like a fool for trusting PSA for as long as I did. I thought I was buying cards that were put under strict grading standards and accepted extremely long turnaround times because of that. I paid their grading prices not just because I thought my cards were put under these standards but ALL OTHERS were as well. I feel cheated (no pun intended Joe) and defrauded. Never, ever again.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by MULLINS5

I too am done. Been collecting raw since this mess was discovered and have been having more fun than I've had the past 20 years collecting graded.

The scandal has me honestly feeling like a fool for trusting PSA for as long as I did. I thought I was buying cards that were put under strict grading standards and accepted extremely long turnaround times because of that. I paid their grading prices not just because I thought my cards were put under these standards but ALL OTHERS were as well. I feel cheated (no pun intended Joe) and defrauded. Never, ever again.

What amazes me Patrick is that they missed COLOR TOUCH!!! There was a Clemente rookie that Moser actually applied green to the card!!! How in the hell was that missed!?!?!?!?! Not to mention all the trimming.

[RedsFan1941]

I stand with the OP. in fact, I will not throw another pitch for the astros until they meet my salary demands.

[Johnny630]

[QUOTE=bobbyw8469;1908344]What amazes me Patrick is that they missed COLOR TOUCH!!! There was a Clemente rookie that Moser actually applied green to the card!!! How in the hell was that missed!?!?!?!?! Not to mention all the trimming.[/QUOTE

Cheats, Frauds, Card Doctors, manipulators, And Scams I was basically told to except all this it happens in every industry by another poster on a different thread. Check it out I didn’t know how to respond to it, I believe it was PW cc alive and doing well. So yeah I guess that’s the majority’s opinion on it it, sure as hell isn’t mine. Sucked all the fun out of this.

[defender100]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

What amazes me Patrick is that they missed COLOR TOUCH!!! There was a Clemente rookie that Moser actually applied green to the card!!! How in the hell was that missed!?!?!?!?! Not to mention all the trimming.

The real question is not how they missed it but did they miss it? Stupidity is not as bad as duplicity, even if the results are the same.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by MULLINS5

I too am done. Been collecting raw since this mess was discovered and have been having more fun than I've had the past 20 years collecting graded.

This. A hobby is supposed to be fun. When crime and money suck the fun out of it, time to re-evaluate. I barely looked at a slabbed card at the National this year and it was so much fun to rely on my own assessments, not mention a hell of a lot easier to bring home my cards in mylar sleeves rather than slabs. You almost forget how nice a 33 Goudey looks in hand and not separated from you by a layer of plastic.

[LincolnVT]

I think that it's still safe to buy high grade cards that have solid provenance. But there are only so many of those cards to be had...

Also, wondering if anyone has a timelframe on the cards that are currently in question? Graded in the past year or two, maybe three? Maybe it's safe to still buy high graded cards in older holders?