1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 8 in PWCC Auction

[Rhotchkiss]

So I understand, a PWCC auction for a PSA 8, 1952 Mantle, ended recently for $489k, and the “winning bidder” had zero (0) feedback? If that is accurate, I think this is something that BODA and net54 should be posting about and the FBI should know about. When I first got back into eBay and had nominal feedback, I had to call pwcc and convince them to let me bid on multiple cards and above a small, minimal amount. Now, in the face of all this scandal, a zero feedback bidder is permitted to bid on, and win, a near $500k card?

[Johnny630]

Will this be relisted from the Vault in a new upcoming auction ?

[CuriousGeorge]

Do you really think with all eyes on them and this particular item that they would be possibly be putting themselves in any questionable position? If you read through the description of the item every bidder was vetted before being allowed to participate in the last day of bidding. Whether you particularly care for Brent or not, he’s not doing something that stupid.

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

So I understand, a PWCC auction for a PSA 8, 1952 Mantle, ended recently for $489k, and the “winning bidder” had zero (0) feedback? If that is accurate, I think this is something that BODA and net54 should be posting about and the FBI should know about. When I first got back into eBay and had nominal feedback, I had to call pwcc and convince them to let me bid on multiple cards and above a small, minimal amount. Now, in the face of all this scandal, a zero feedback bidder is permitted to bid on, and win, a near $500k card?

[irv]

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge

Do you really think with all eyes on them and this particular item that they would be possibly be putting themselves in any questionable position? If you read through the description of the item every bidder was vetted before being allowed to participate in the last day of bidding. Whether you particularly care for Brent or not, he’s not doing something that stupid.

What we've seen/heard so far from, Brent, I think that is open for debate.

[Rhotchkiss]

I don’t think they are stupid (in fact Brent seems very smart), but it’s more cockey or cavalier (or maybe they are stupid, or greedy). Maybe their strategy is don’t stop what we were doing because changing indicates some culpability. Regardless, the optics are terrible- why, under the current circumstances, would PWCC allow a zero feedback bidder to win a $500k card? Vetted or not, it looks real bad and, if vetted, shows that they will continue to treat certain people special. $500k card and zero feedback is as logical as a fish riding a bicycle.

[CuriousGeorge]

I tried to buy it. The transaction was legit. Probably just a rich guy who doesn’t use eBay but sure knew how to snipe it in the last few seconds.

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I don’t think they are stupid (in fact Brent seems very smart), but it’s more cockey or cavalier (or maybe they are stupid, or greedy). Maybe their strategy is don’t stop what we were doing because changing indicates some culpability. Regardless, the optics are terrible- why, under the current circumstances, would PWCC allow a zero feedback bidder to win a $500k card? Vetted or not, it looks real bad and, if vetted, shows that they will continue to treat certain people special. $500k card and zero feedback is as logical as a fish riding a bicycle.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge

I tried to buy it. The transaction was legit. Probably just a rich guy who doesn’t use eBay but sure knew how to snipe it in the last few seconds.

Quoted for posterity

[Peter_Spaeth]

For Ryan. Would make a good avatar.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge

I tried to buy it. The transaction was legit. Probably just a rich guy who doesn’t use eBay but sure knew how to snipe it in the last few seconds.

I know what that's like.....

But just because you got outbid does not mean it was legit; it just means you were outbid, by who we dont know, unless you know something more (and I am guessing you may). Either way, I think it is "nuts" (because I dont if they are stupid, greedy, insane, cockey, cavalier, following a game plan, etc), to publicly log a $500k purchase of a very high impact and visual card/sale to a bidder with Zero feedback, especially under the current climate.

Thanks for the Pic Peter. Its actually a lyric from a U2 song" "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle".

[Peter_Spaeth]

Ryan, I'm looking for a better image, but I still haven't found what I'm looking for.

[CuriousGeorge]

If the guy was vetted and showed the assets able to pay for it, should he be excluded because he has zero feedback which makes the optics bad? I would think a lot of non traditional ebay buyers and PWCC customers would have come out of the woodwork to purchase this card.

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I know what that's like.....

But just because you got outbid does not mean it was legit; it just means you were outbid, by who we dont know, unless you know something more (and I am guessing you may). Either way, I think it is "nuts" (because I dont if they are stupid, greedy, insane, cockey, cavalier, following a game plan, etc), to publicly log a $500k purchase of a very high impact and visual card/sale to a bidder with Zero feedback, especially under the current climate.

Thanks for the Pic Peter. Its actually a lyric from a U2 song" "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle".

[steve B]

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge

I tried to buy it. The transaction was legit. Probably just a rich guy who doesn’t use eBay but sure knew how to snipe it in the last few seconds.

Or had staff that knew how to snipe.