USA TODAY article regarding FBI subpoenas, doctoring, etc......

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The word is now widespread that TPGs either suck at detecting alterations or they're turning a blind eye. Has it impacted sales substantially? Or are people still buying like rabbits on Viagra?

Sadly people are still blindingly buying like rabbits on viagra it’s gonna crash just not yet but predict it will

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The word is now widespread that TPGs either suck at detecting alterations or they're turning a blind eye. Has it impacted sales substantially? Or are people still buying like rabbits on Viagra?

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Sadly people are still blindingly buying like rabbits on viagra it’s gonna crash just not yet but predict it will

I sincerely hope it is going to crash and all the bad people will disappear.

In reality I see absolutely nothing happening. Like has been posted it is all about the $. Nothing happened in any case I can think of. A few idiots got out after the Mastro debacle. The smart scum that gave the collectors the big FU are bigger now than before Mastro got lightly slapped on his fingers.

As far as PSA, they have gave the big FU to collectors for years. The dumb collectors line up and say "please sir can I have another".

I am at the point I couldn't care less about the dumb lemmings.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I sincerely hope it is going to crash and all the bad people will disappear.

In reality I see absolutely nothing happening. Like has been posted it is all about the $. Nothing happened in any case I can think of. A few idiots got out after the Mastro debacle. The smart scum that gave the collectors the big FU are bigger now than before Mastro got lightly slapped on his fingers.

As far as PSA, they have gave the big FU to collectors for years. The dumb collectors line up and say "please sir can I have another".

I am at the point I couldn't care less about the dumb lemmings.

It would have to tank really far for the bad people to abandon it.
There were altered cards, and outright fakes in 1977-78 when I first got involved in anything besides buying packs.
71 Topps got recolored when they were 10 cents each.
The fake I bought at my first show was a whole $2. And there were no computer printers or copy machines that could do a good enough job, so it was press printed, which isn't a trivial effort.

I can't see things tanking that far.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by steve B

It would have to tank really far for the bad people to abandon it.
There were altered cards, and outright fakes in 1977-78 when I first got involved in anything besides buying packs.
71 Topps got recolored when they were 10 cents each.
The fake I bought at my first show was a whole $2. And there were no computer printers or copy machines that could do a good enough job, so it was press printed, which isn't a trivial effort.

I can't see things tanking that far.

Me either but we can always hope.

I hope Peter, the BO guys, and everyone else keeps up the fight.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Me either but we can always hope.

I hope Peter, the BO guys, and everyone else keeps up the fight.

Agree ! Peter and BO have done a great job among many others on this board who call out all the crap. I feel beaten down and depressed about it but I won’t stop calling it for what it is !