OT - 1993 Topps R&N China Porcelain cards

[ALR-bishop]

Those are nice Adam. I like them but a set of 825 would be a "heavy" burden Jason

[Exhibitman]

That's why I'd only collect a player or two. Picked up the 1989 Ryan for a buck at the National.

I can't believe these were nearly $20 each when issued.

[ALR-bishop]

When I bought the Mantle above you could get one for all or at least most of his Topps cards

[Zach Wheat]

Jason,

There have to be several versions of at lease some of these pieces of sports nostalgia. I have seen examples that do not contain the Topps licensing information and have language included that they are "sports nostalgia". They also state they are produced by R & N China Co. out of Carrollton, OH.

Happy collecting.

[DaClyde]

Oh, yeah, I know the Griffey, Ryan, Bonds, Thomas and Ripken are all available as parts of career retrospective sets. Probably Clemens as well.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by DaClyde

Oh, yeah, I know the Griffey, Ryan, Bonds, Thomas and Ripken are all available as parts of career retrospective sets. Probably Clemens as well.

Mattingly, too.

[homerunderby]

Amazingly more popped up, available on Ebay for the right price

160 Whitaker
243 Deer
250 Knoblauch

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15446120964...sAAOSwzQxgNFrD

https://www.ebay.com/itm/32406642925...gAAOSw5oZePcwl

[ALR-bishop]

Are they dishwasher safe ?

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by DaClyde

Oh, yeah, I know the Griffey, Ryan, Bonds, Thomas and Ripken are all available as parts of career retrospective sets. Probably Clemens as well.

I just stumbled upon this thread after having recently picked up a R & N China Co. 8.5" plate at a local garage sale. This plate has a large image of the 1958 Topps Bob Clemente card. It is still shrink-wrapped in its original packaging, and only the top of the plate shows. I found an identical plate currently for sale on eBay as a BIN, and the seller shows several pics of both sides of the plate - here's the link to it:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/29497211846...ampid%3APL_CLK

I know absolutely nothing about these R & N China plates, so I will appreciate any information anyone can provide about this Clemente plate, such as:
- What year was it produced?
- How many Clemente plates were produced?
- Were plates produced for any of the other 1958 Topps cards?
- Is this Clemente plate worth more than the few bucks I paid for it?

Thanks in advance for any helpful info,
Val

[ALR-bishop]

Only one I have... still

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

- Is this Clemente plate worth more than the few bucks I paid for it?

How many? The certificate said it was limited to 90 minting days. That's a lot of plates, but obviously not many survived. The one in the ebay listing looks like it's #61,9x0 , so that's tens of thousands of that specific plate.

I would price it at $50 in my antique mall booth, personally.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by swarmee

How many? The certificate said it was limited to 90 minting days. That's a lot of plates, but obviously not many survived. The one in the ebay listing looks like it's #61,9x0 , so that's tens of thousands of that specific plate.

I would price it at $50 in my antique mall booth, personally.

John, thanks for your helpful input. I'll likely put it on eBay for around the price you suggest.

[DaClyde]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Those are nice Adam. I like them but a set of 825 would be a "heavy" burden Jason

I couldn't image attempting to complete this set. There are only a handful I'm chasing. Now you've got me curious how much they actually weigh...

[DaClyde]

Big update. Someone just posted a listing on eBay of porcelain cards of 25 players from the 1993 Colorado Rockies. Not all of them are in Rockies uniforms, so I'll note that in the additions below. This listing added 13 new cards to my ever-growing checklist. That puts the set at 132/825.

173 Andres Galarraga (Cardinals)
209 Jeff Parrett (A's)
356 Freddie Benavides (Reds)
425 Joe Girardi
444 David Nied
445 Dale Murphy (Phillies)
504 Gene Lamont / Don Baylor MGR
523 Doug Bochtler
551 Eric Young
644 Dante Bichette
676 Rudy Seanez
681 Darren Holmes
732 Travis Buckley

[DaClyde]

Originally Posted by DaClyde

I couldn't image attempting to complete this set. There are only a handful I'm chasing. Now you've got me curious how much they actually weigh...

For kicks, I weighed my Roberto Kelly card on my postage scale and it reported 0.8oz. That means the entire set, just cards without packaging, would weight 41.25lbs!

[sbfinley]

I’m not sure what your checklist looks like, but I can confirm the full Braves team set and the Maddux Topps Traded. I received them for Christmas in 93 or 94 from my uncle. I don’t remember how they were packaged, but each came with a wooden block shaped like home plate to display them.

[DaClyde]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

I’m not sure what your checklist looks like, but I can confirm the full Braves team set and the Maddux Topps Traded. I received them for Christmas in 93 or 94 from my uncle. I don’t remember how they were packaged, but each came with a wooden block shaped like home plate to display them.

Excellent. If you still have them, I have not yet confirmed the existence of the following Braves:

8 Mark Wolhers
35 John Smoltz
62 Rafael Belliard
88 Mike Stanton
198 Alejandro Pena
251 Mike Bielecki
475 Jeff Reardon
677 Charlie Leibrandt

Do you have these? Were any of the draft picks, multiple rookies/prospects or manager card included in the set?

[Rookiemonster]

I have a autographed 1952 Willie Mays R&N China. I got it from a card shop unauthenticated for $30 dollars. I later got it authenticated by JSA. The story from the shop owner was that the card was purchased years ago by a from a old man that had a bunch of just 52 Mays all signed. This being the last one he had.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by DaClyde

Excellent. If you still have them, I have not yet confirmed the existence of the following Braves:

8 Mark Wolhers
35 John Smoltz
62 Rafael Belliard
88 Mike Stanton
198 Alejandro Pena
251 Mike Bielecki
475 Jeff Reardon
677 Charlie Leibrandt

Do you have these? Were any of the draft picks, multiple rookies/prospects or manager card included in the set?

I should have been more specific. The set (or group I had) were normal base cards only. It didn’t have the Chipper or the Klesko prospect cards, the Javy Draft Pick card, or the Cox (I think they were dual that year, like Cox and Cito Gaston maybe?) I can 100% verify the Smoltz as I displayed the Smoltz, Glavine, Maddux, and Avery together for years. The rest I am fairly certain were included, but they haven’t seen daylight since Christmas 93 or 94. I’ll also add that I don’t remember the McGriff and I think he had a TT card in 93. I still have them all packed away somewhere between my house, garage, storage unit, or at my father’s. I probably haven’t seen them in 20 years but if I come across them I’d be more than happy to send them your way.

As an aside, have you checked old shop at home videos? My Uncle who gifted them to me almost certainly got them from there. He was the other collector in my family, and his bricks of Classic Draft pick cards and unlicensed rookies were going to be his retirement. My closet in my youth was loaded with uncut sheets, plaques, and the usual HSN variety from him.

[Exhibitman]

Going through the R & N porcelains I have I noticed a few from different sets:



This Bowman has gold edging and the back says "R & N China Co., Inc." at the top and "Limited Edition #_____ 10,000 sets" at the bottom. Mine is #860

Then there is this one:



It has a gold embossed seat front left which reads "1931 1995 Mickey Mantle" with a Topps logo. The back says it is from the Mickey Mantle Commemorative Set. The # is "2656/S5" and handwritten.