Darren's Rovell take on PWCC, etc.

[Thecafewha]

Sorry if it’s been discussed but is there a way to see the POP for cards currently in the register (instead of the total POP for all cards graded)?

While still not accurate, might give a better idea of the cards still in holders depending on the rates of registry use.


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[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Thecafewha

Sorry if it’s been discussed but is there a way to see the POP for cards currently in the register (instead of the total POP for all cards graded)?

While still not accurate, might give a better idea of the cards still in holders depending on the rates of registry use.

There is not a good way to do this. And I don't think it would get you much more useful information. I think a vast majority of cards have not been regraded, and personally don't believe the "60%" number thrown around. I think the number of altered cards in PSA holders must be closer to 10%.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by swarmee

There is not a good way to do this. And I don't think it would get you much more useful information. I think a vast majority of cards have not been regraded, and personally don't believe the "60%" number thrown around. I think the number of altered cards in PSA holders must be closer to 10%.

I am pretty cynical but 60 percent seems just crazy to me, especially given the vast numbers of relatively low value cards that people get graded.

[Thecafewha]

I was more thinking about figuring out how many cards have been broken out and re-subbed. There are many flip #s that exist in the POP that don’t exist in real life anymore.

Originally Posted by swarmee

There is not a good way to do this. And I don't think it would get you much more useful information. I think a vast majority of cards have not been regraded, and personally don't believe the "60%" number thrown around. I think the number of altered cards in PSA holders must be closer to 10%.

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[swarmee]

You would have to create a bot to crawl through every number on their cert lookup. That is the best way to do it, but you wouldn't really know which items were previously cracked out and which ones were MINSIZ, MISCUT, or ALTERED in the first place. Only the crackouts that had the flips returned would now be empty, presuming PSA actually spent the time to remove them. The majority of collectors never send back the flips.

There are a huge number of collectors that don't use the set registry at all.

Think of how many 1989 Griffeys have been graded; now how many of those are in any registry at all?

It would be amazing if someone could create a bot to do all the cert verification lookups, and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.