Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

[Peter_Spaeth]

59 Mantle 7 to 8.5
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[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

59 Mantle 7 to 8.5
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Terrible !!!

Always get cheated

[Peter_Spaeth]

Old Judge Keefe Bat 4 to 7 5K gain

Not sure it makes the refund pile, it's "only" chemically cleaned apparently.
I mean conserved.
Long live the tenets.

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[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Old Judge Keefe Bat 4 to 7 5K gain

Not sure it makes the refund pile, it's "only" chemically cleaned apparently.
I mean conserved.
Long live the tenets.

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Next we will see cards like this in Newport Beach Opinion Givers Holders disintegrate over time.....card is prob the consistency of peanut brittle

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Next we will see cards like this in Newport Beach Opinion Givers Holders disintegrate over time.....card is prob the consistency of peanut brittle

But the flip, my friend.... the flip is what counts.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Next we will see cards like this in Newport Beach Opinion Givers Holders disintegrate over time.....card is prob the consistency of peanut brittle

Not all chemicals will do that. The biggest problem is that we don't know what was used and what effects it has long term.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Seaver RC
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[Peter_Spaeth]

Ryan RC.

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[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Old Judge Keefe Bat 4 to 7 5K gain

Not sure it makes the refund pile, it's "only" chemically cleaned apparently.
I mean conserved.
Long live the tenets.

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Just WOW!

A $5,360 profit from a chemical bath that took a few minutes to execute.

This one is so sad, as the Keefe card had beautifully survived for 132 years, relatively unscathed. Now it has chemicals leaching throughout, within its tomb. Who knows what level of deterioration will occur within that slab over the next 132 years?

Hopefully the new owner who paid $6,600 for the card will see this, and get proper restitution.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Just WOW!

A $5,360 profit from a chemical bath that took a few minutes to execute.

This one is so sad, as the Keefe card had beautifully survived for 132 years, relatively unscathed. Now it has chemicals leaching throughout, within its tomb. Who knows what level of deterioration will occur within that slab over the next 132 years?

Hopefully the new owner who paid $6,600 for the card will see this, and get proper restitution.

The cleaned cards, I think we read the other day, are not being dealt with yet. And with due respect to Net 54 and Blowout, the odds that the owner is on the forums much less actively keeps up with this thread or the Blowout thread are relatively low.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The cleaned cards, I think we read the other day, are not being dealt with yet. And with due respect to Net 54 and Blowout, the odds that the owner is on the forums much less actively keeps up with this thread or the Blowout thread are relatively low.

I thought Lichtman said something about PWCC voluntarily reaching out to clients who were impacted. I know that it's a "needle in a haystack" for the new owner to be reading these forums, and to see it.

So chemical treatments don't count to them, as being returnable? Seems like a lot more than just a "cleaning", and should definitely be classified as reimbursable (along with trimmed and re-colored examples). That really stinks, if indeed true.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I thought Lichtman said something about PWCC voluntarily reaching out to clients who were impacted. I know that it's a "needle in a haystack" for the new owner to be reading these forums, and to see it.

So chemical treatments don't count to them, as being returnable? Seems like a lot more than just a "cleaning", and should definitely be classified as reimbursable (along with trimmed and re-colored examples). That really stinks, if indeed true.

Jeff said
Buyers are being notified by email and phone. The first round of buyers are those who bought clearly altered cards, i.e. trimming and recoloring. The more grey stuff (cleaning, pressed corners) is being mostly put on the back burner for now except in egregious cases. This is all a fluid situation subject to my discussions with the government. It’s not a perfect situation but it’s more perfect than anything that has ever occurred previously in fraud cases in the hobby.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Just WOW!

A $5,360 profit from a chemical bath that took a few minutes to execute.

This one is so sad, as the Keefe card had beautifully survived for 132 years, relatively unscathed. Now it has chemicals leaching throughout, within its tomb. Who knows what level of deterioration will occur within that slab over the next 132 years?

Hopefully the new owner who paid $6,600 for the card will see this, and get proper restitution.

Add this card to the $5000 or more list