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Old 07-24-2019, 07:45 PM
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Chuck, I totally understand that it feels very tough to accept but is the goal to punish Brent to the fullest extent the government wants to (and who knows what that is if anything?) or is it to try and solve the bigger problem and in addition try to get those affected their money back?
Maybe you missed my earlier post. I'll ask again. Why is Jeff so concerned about getting restitution for those affected? Did he champion the cause for restitution for El Chapo's victims? Sure, many of them were from rival cartels, but many innocent people were killed too. What about restitution for the victims families?

Good ol' Jeff...always thinking about compensation for others. How selfless?

Edited to add: And, from what I understand, Brent was already refunding people even before being represented by Jeff. If I'm wrong, correct me on that. If I'm right, stop bullshitting that it's because of Jeff's involvement.

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Old 07-24-2019, 07:51 PM
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Maybe you missed my earlier post. I'll ask again. Why is Jeff so concerned about getting restitution for those affected? Did he champion the cause for restitution for El Chapo's victims? Sure, many of them were from rival cartels, but many innocent people were killed too. What about restitution for the victims families?

Good ol' Jeff...always thinking about compensation for others. How selfless?

Edited to add: And, from what I understand, Brent was already refunding people even before being represented by Jeff. If I'm wrong, correct me on that. If I'm right, stop bullshitting that it's because of Jeff's involvement.
El Chapo was not a cooperator. David, stick to what you know.
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:21 PM
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El Chapo was not a cooperator. David, stick to what you know.
Are you really a lawyer or are you bullshitting us? Last I read, El Chapo forfeited 14 Billion dollars upon convition.
Congress has always supported the idea that criminal proceeds go to the victims famalies.

I may not be a lawyer, but I obviously know a hell of a lot more than you on this subject. Now, stick to what you know!
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:23 PM
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Are you really a lawyer or are you bullshitting us? Last I read, El Chapo forfeited 14 Billion dollars upon convition.
Congress has always supported the idea that criminal proceeds go to the victims famalies.

I may not be a lawyer, but I obviously know a hell of a lot more than you on this subject. Now, stick to what you know!
You are a complete and utter dope. I can certainly understand where an attorney might have enthusiasm to help the other side when his alternative would be to help you.
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:25 PM
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Are you really a lawyer or are you bullshitting us? Last I read, El Chapo forfeited 14 Billion dollars upon convition.
Congress has always supported the idea that criminal proceeds go to the victims famalies.

I may not be a lawyer, but I obviously know a hell of a lot more than you on this subject. Now, stick to what you know!
Seriously? There is a forfeiture order. Do you really think that is collectible? Come on. Even you should know better than that.
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Do you really think that is collectible?
Honestly, I don't know. It would seem one of the senators from my home state believes so, go check out the El Chapo Act. Maybe it dies in the senate, maybe not, but again I don't know.

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Old 07-24-2019, 08:54 PM
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Honestly, I don't know. It would seem one of the senators from my home state believes so, go check out the El Chapo Act. Maybe it dies in the senate, maybe not, but again I don't know.
I would suggest that he is probably delusional, but whatever. You do what you think you need to do I suppose.
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:28 PM
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Are you really a lawyer or are you bullshitting us? Last I read, El Chapo forfeited 14 Billion dollars upon convition.
Congress has always supported the idea that criminal proceeds go to the victims famalies.

I may not be a lawyer, but I obviously know a hell of a lot more than you on this subject. Now, stick to what you know!
I am well aware of the forfeiture. So what? You were talking about Jeff. For a defense lawyer it's a completely different situation representing a cooperator where one of your bargaining chips might be restitution, and defending someone in a trial where it's completely adversarial. Now, back to where you came. Please.
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For whatever it’s worth there’s a forfeiture in place for $12.7B. Amount collected thus far after years of searching: 0.
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For whatever it’s worth there’s a forfeiture in place for $12.7B. Amount collected thus far after years of searching: 0.
That's because Jeff didn't care about the victims and hid it.
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Jeffrey stole it and he’s now trying to corner the market on all Ty Cobb cards.
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Maybe you missed my earlier post. I'll ask again. Why is Jeff so concerned about getting restitution for those affected? Did he champion the cause for restitution for El Chapo's victims? Sure, many of them were from rival cartels, but many innocent people were killed too. What about restitution for the victims families?

Good ol' Jeff...always thinking about compensation for others. How selfless?

Edited to add: And, from what I understand, Brent was already refunding people even before being represented by Jeff. If I'm wrong, correct me on that. If I'm right, stop bullshitting that it's because of Jeff's involvement.
Don’t post here a lot so please take this question at face value....

Why is this so personal for you? I see a lot of people disappointed with this
representation but it seems to bother you on a whole different level.
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