PWCC Huigens Now Has a Criminal Defense Attorney

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Client's best interest? Restitution? Jeff really has you guys fooled. Y'all are so gullible.

You think Jeff gives a shit about his client's best interest? He was hooking up with his girlfriend during El Chapo's trial. Was that in his client's best interest?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/el-chapos...-client-report

If you really think Jeff gives a shit about restitution? Tell me what kind of restitution did El Chapo's victims get? Should I post some extremely graphic images as a reminder?

Please! What a crock of shit!

Ive seen Jeff use the word scumbag multiple times on this site while attacking others. Are lawyers held to any accountibility when I read an article like the one posted? Does the Bar look into Ehtics of an attourney when something like this happens?

I wonder if other Criminal defense lawyers on this board would have taken on Brent as a client? Don't they have a choice?

[Peter_Spaeth]

There's nothing in that article that suggests any ethical violation. It's a personal matter.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There's nothing in that article that suggests any ethical violation. It's a personal matter.

Peter, that's a load of crap! I'm not an attorney and I don't know what is or is not an ethical violation, but do you think if he was in court while texting/thinking about his girlfriend that he can fully focus on the trial? How about this line from the article, "Lichtman also told his paramour that she was distracting him from the drug lord’s case. He said, according to the Post, that he was 'spending more time on your case than on the one where I got paid a million dollars.'"


And maybe that's not an ethical violation. I don't know and I don't care.
But it goes back to my original point. How do you focus on your client's best interest when the focus is on other things? I don't think you read the entire article. And this is not a personal attack on Jeff's character, it's to show that Jeff doesn't give a shit about anybody but Jeff.

Question for you though. If you were a defense attorney, would you defend Brent? And please don't give me the typical lawyer answer, "Well, but I'm not a defense attorney...blah, blah, blah." It's a hypothetical question. Would you or would you not defend Brent?

[pokerplyr80]

David the rest of us would like updates about this case from Jeff. He stated he won't be coming on to provide them if comments like yours continue. Can we keep attacks on his personal life off the board for now at least? If for no other reason than to leave a valuable line of communication open?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

David the rest of us would like updates about this case from Jeff. He stated he won't be coming on to provide them if comments like yours continue. Can we keep attacks on his personal life off the board for now at least? If for no other reason than to leave a valuable line of communication open?

Are you for real? Why would you believe anything he says?

[Snapolit1]

Personal stuff is beyond the pale. Would anyone on the board appreciate personal stuff? I don’t think so. You may not like his client but no need to engage in ad hominem attacks.

Jeff doesn’t need anyone blowing smoke up him ass. He’s obviously extraordinarily good at what he does. Some of you might not like lawyers and what they do. Entitled to your opinion. You prob won’t feel the same way when you or a family member has the government coming after them.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Personal stuff is beyond the pale. Would anyone on the board appreciate personal stuff? I don’t think so. You may not like his client but no need to engage in ad hominem attacks.

Same question to you that I asked Jason. Where were you when Jeff was making personal attacks on Brent?

But, again, it's not a personal attack. It's to show that Jeff doesn't give a shit about anybody but Jeff. Many of you have had the wool pulled over your eyes and you're too blind to see it but, like I said, Jeff has you guys so fooled. You actually think he gives a shit about this hobby. What a bunch a puppets.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Personal stuff is beyond the pale. Would anyone on the board appreciate personal stuff? I don’t think so. You may not like his client but no need to engage in ad hominem attacks.

I agree, these personal attacks are way out of line, and have nothing to do with cards.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Peter, that's a load of crap! I'm not an attorney and I don't know what is or is not an ethical violation, but do you think if he was in court while texting/thinking about his girlfriend that he can fully focus on the trial? How about this line from the article, "Lichtman also told his paramour that she was distracting him from the drug lord’s case. He said, according to the Post, that he was 'spending more time on your case than on the one where I got paid a million dollars.'"


And maybe that's not an ethical violation. I don't know and I don't care.
But it goes back to my original point. How do you focus on your client's best interest when the focus is on other things? I don't think you read the entire article. And this is not a personal attack on Jeff's character, it's to show that Jeff doesn't give a shit about anybody but Jeff.

Question for you though. If you were a defense attorney, would you defend Brent? And please don't give me the typical lawyer answer, "Well, but I'm not a defense attorney...blah, blah, blah." It's a hypothetical question. Would you or would you not defend Brent?

I read it when it came out. It was a vicious personal attack that was not newsworthy and had no place even in a scummy tabloid. Considering the source, I doubt much of it was even accurate. And until today, even people who hate Jeff have been classy enough not to post it. It's a baseball card chatboard, not a sewer.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I read it when it came out. It was a vicious personal attack that was not newsworthy and had no place even in a scummy tabloid. Considering the source, I doubt much of it was even accurate. And until today, even people who hate Jeff have been classy enough not to post it. It's a baseball card chatboard, not a sewer.

A scummy tabloid? Ok, would you like to read it from another source?

https://www.barstoolsports.com/barst...-bernie-madoff

What exactly are you saying, Peter? That these text exchanges never took place? Read the linked article. It gives even more detail about the texts.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

A scummy tabloid? Ok, would you like to read it from another source?

https://www.barstoolsports.com/barst...-bernie-madoff

What exactly are you saying, Peter? That these text exchanges never took place? Read the linked article. It gives even more detail about the texts.

I could not care less about Jeff's personal life. It's just that -- his personal life. Nobody should be publishing someone's private text messages about personal matters.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I could not care less about Jeff's personal life. It's just that -- his personal life. Nobody should be publishing someone's private text messages about personal matters.

Come on. You're smarter than that. If I have a lawyer representing me and instead of focusing on my case he's sexting his girlfriend, I'd be pretty pissed about it. I'm no lawyer, Peter, but isn't that grounds for a retrial if he's doing that in a courtroom? You say no ethics violations occurred, but I strongly disagree.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nobody should be publishing someone's private text messages about personal matters.

Not even high character individuals with superior morals???

[taul166]

If any of you are members of Baseball's HOF and receive their periodic publications, you will see that Brent is in a group photo from inside the museum that shows the group cutting the ribbon that opens the new exhibit on baseball cards in Cooperstown.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

A scummy tabloid? Ok, would you like to read it from another source?

https://www.barstoolsports.com/barst...-bernie-madoff

What exactly are you saying, Peter? That these text exchanges never took place? Read the linked article. It gives even more detail about the texts.

All that left me with are questions.

Like why is someone who swiped millions from her business staying in a $99 hotel room and ordering cheap pizza?

And just where the _ can you find a $99 hotel room?

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by steve B

All that left me with are questions.

Like why is someone who swiped millions from her business staying in a $99 hotel room and ordering cheap pizza?

And just where the _ can you find a $99 hotel room?

Queens or the Bronx?

[kateighty]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

I wonder if other Criminal defense lawyers on this board would have taken on Brent as a client? Don't they have a choice?

I've thought about this exact question since I heard/read the news. As someone who graduated from law school in the last decade, ethical training has changed A LOT compared to how things were back in the 80's and 90's. I'm not going to get into anything personal or take sides. But for those curious about ethics I think there's certainly a generational gap that needs to be factored in here. While it may seem cut and dry to most these technicalities do change with time. Jeff and Brent stand a good chance at making it into a Professional Responsibility law book in the near future.